fantasy productivity?? everyone knows zito is the most overrated piece of garbage in fantasy.. he managed to get a whopping 1 more win then lilly had last season (16 to 15) and had 151 strikeouts in 221 innings. Lilly struck out 160 in 181 innings. There WHIP's were very identical (1.4 to 1.43). So big deal, Zito pitched over 200 innings (walking 99 batters) while Lilly pitched 180, he was injured in 05 and pitched 197 in 04.. He played for the BLUE JAYS the last 3 years and never got any type of run support until last year.. In all last year, he had somewhere in the area of 10 more flyball outs then groundball outs. Looks pretty balanced to me, not exactly what u would call a "fly ball pitcher." ALLLLL this happened with Lilly pitching in the AL East by the way, by far against the best lineups in baseball. I can GUARENTEE you Zito will not even come close to being worth the contract hes looking for, and Lilly will produce similarly at half the price. You must be a moron to call this the worst signing of the season, especially after seeing Gil Meche's recent signing. And by the way, i only accept cash or money order.
Buddy, you're digging a hole you will not be able to climb out of sooner or later. Seems to me like after your comment, you are the only
one on here that actually thinks Lilly is better (actually, likely the only one on the planet).
Ted Lelly is turning 32 years old, and your comments suggest that at 32 he will somehow wake up and start playing better then anyone ever imagined him to be able to. As I showed you above, Zito has better career stats across the board then Lilly (all the while being younger the Lilly).
As stated by others, you are quite incorrect to thyink that Zito will be receiving 20 million per year since no player on the market is and most likely won't be. Zito will likely receiver somewhere in the 16-17 neighborhood. At that price I take my guaranteed under 4 ERA, 15+ wins, 150 (at the absolutely minimum) Ks, and durability to be able to throw 200 innings as an absolute minimum (Zito has never
been injured by the way).
Lilly pitched extremely poorly last year (as well as most of his career) and had horrid stats except for the 15 wins. How did he get those 15 wins? Last year Toronto's offense produced 809 runs (to Oakland's 771). Have you seen
the Cubs offense?! They were third last in runs last year with a mere 716! Thats almost a 100 run dropoff, I guess the run production will take away the one thing Lilly had. Add that to a shaky bullpen, a ballpark that is less the favorable, a fan base that will boo the hell out of Lilly once he has one bad start (sooner rather then later) and you have one fun season ahead of you.
I think the quote by acs says it best:
Zito is a better pitcher. but the fact that Lilly is compared to any pitcher that doesn't suck is strange
I can't believe you actually are fighting for this, I don't see much support for your side however.
Sean Tracey has my apologies, we all know Ozzie Guillen is an idiot. I'm rooting for you!