j_d_mcnugent wrote:RugbyD wrote:nobody owes you a particular choice in burger any more I am owed one loaded with transfats if that's what I want. There was nobody demanding legislation forcing companies to create foods with longer shelf lifes. the product simply evolved on its own. specifically labeled trans-fat-free products are already evolving on their own quite well without the goverment forcing the issue, so why bother? because you find it inconvenient to your personal desires? keep your will off the cheap, tasty burger I'm more than happy to pay for and eat. why do you want to take it away from me?
it is much easier for people to complain and demand from others than put forth an effort to create and leave others alone.
i dont want to take the trans fat burger from you. i enjoy them in moderation myself. what i want is a choice. i feel i am owed that choice when trans fat represents a significant health risk.
this extends beyond just the McD's value menu. trans fats are increasingly pervasive in food items and are difficult to limit without a vegetarian/vegan diet. corporate america has been ramming it down our throats and has often been deceptive in doing so. several fast food places announced initiatives to change to non-trans fat oils, declared time lines, and then never publicized that they abandoned or delayed the initiatives leading people to believe the trans fats were eliminated or reduced. even the words "zero trans fat" dont actually mean there is no trans fat in a product.
to put it simply, i dont think its about a choice in burgers. i think it is a legitimate publicly health issue.
trans fats are not a public heath issue. trans fats hainging out in a box on a shelf or in a burger on the rack pose zero health risk.
trans fats are a personal health issue. people who choose to consume trans-fats in substantial quantities are a health risk to themselves.
people who are too lazy to scan the ingredients list for the word 'hydrogenated' are owed nothing.
corporate america hasn't rammed anything down our throats that we were not already all too happy to consume in varying quantities. if people refuse to eat transfats, corporations will not produce them. There is tons of food out there with limited or no trans fats. I know this because I eat them every single day with extremely minimal effort on my part and i am as opposite of vegan as you can get.
if, upon request, any eating establishment declines to itemize every single ingredient for you, or even simply declines to say whether or not a menu item contains a material amount of trans fats, feel free not to eat there. to utter the question requires an extremely minimal effort on your part that you should be happy to exert if you care as much about your health as you appear to claim to.