Omaha Red Sox wrote: DK wrote: Callahan wrote:
I just checked out freetheslaves.net and it's a very, very interesting site. Thanks for pointing that out.
DK wrote:Here's a fun quiz: Who knows when the idea of "race" first showed up in any writing anywhere?
Wasn't it during the Enlightenment? I know it was within the last 300 years or so.
Close enough. A little longer ago, it was 1684.
But think of it this way: All these issues we're talking about as a matter of "race" - were just invented by Francois Bernier. Before his book, nobody cared about race, nobody mentioned it - it wasn't in existence.
In case you're missing the gist of my point, race is a man-made creation. Those we perceive as "white" people invented the concept of race as a means of control via slavery and human trafficking. Race is just an umbrella term to classify things we don't understand. The true term is ethnicity, and therefore what we think of as "racism" is really just ethnocentrism.
But wasn't ethnicity relevant in terms of separation long before 1684? Certain people were only supposed to marry within a certain class, tribe, etc. of the same people, mostly due to religion. I don't know specifics on this, and agree that 'race' is man-made, but I believe the differences man has created are much older than 1684. Unless I'm completely missing your point altogether...
Sorry - I may have miscommunicated. In terms of semantics and words, "racism" is an incorrect word because the concept of "race" is non-existent. That's basically what I was getting at with that; classification regarding ethnic background has happened forever, it's intuitive and natural. But the word "race" just irks me, because the word race was created with the intention of separating colors and classifying them in different social classes with no regard for their actual background.
For instance, my skin color looks "white" enough that I am perceived as "white" all the time. I am in fact an Armenian, which means I don't fit into the racial classifications of "white" or "black", and yet people classify me as what they assume I am with no real knowledge of my true background.
So to sum up, the difference is that ethnicities are there to be proud of, as it is actually who we are. Race on the other hand is just there to classify social status based on skin color and not on where we really come from.