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Postby dougbies » Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:10 pm

what is the deal with this kid. everyone talks about this kid like he is johan santana. what does he feature, and at what speeds?

was he not used in middle releif last year?
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Postby Amazinz » Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:19 pm

He is a good middle reliever. Some people think that that can translate as a starter. Heilman's effectiveness is not so much the speed but the movement on his pitches.
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Postby Zito is God » Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:24 pm

I don't think anyone is into Heilman anymore, not sure where you got it from. Last year he was hyped up.
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Postby Dawgpound 1613 » Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:30 pm

Some seem to believe that he'd be a great SP based on what he has shown as a MR. Madson was another like that.

However, like Madson, IMHO, some pitchers can dial it up for 1-2 IP but not for an entire game. I think Heilman falls into that group. However, Heilman wants that chance to prove he can be a SP at the ML level. Maybe the Mets trade him and give him a chance.

But I agree that the hype was more last year. But if he gets traded, I can see it start up. I won't be joining it, though.
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Postby Amazinz » Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:30 pm

I am assuming he is a Cubs fan and there have been several rumors about the Cubs trying to trade for Heilman.
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Postby dougbies » Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:53 pm

ok, thats for your help and insight everyone
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Postby Havok1517 » Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:27 pm

Heilman is a starter and the Mets will probably use him that way if they can find good MR to replace him. Heilman was too valuable in the pen to change him midseason to the rotation.
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Postby gfantasy » Sat Nov 11, 2006 5:42 pm

Havok1517 wrote:Heilman is a starter and the Mets will probably use him that way if they can find good MR to replace him. Heilman was too valuable in the pen to change him midseason to the rotation.


I think he's an effective pitcher, period. IMO he'd make a good starter and has already proven hes great in MR.
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Sat Nov 11, 2006 5:50 pm

gfantasy wrote:
Havok1517 wrote:Heilman is a starter and the Mets will probably use him that way if they can find good MR to replace him. Heilman was too valuable in the pen to change him midseason to the rotation.


I think he's an effective pitcher, period. IMO he'd make a good starter and has already proven hes great in MR.

I thought he only has command of 2 pitches right now. The fastball and splitter. Isn't the rap on him that the slider and changeup are just too inconsistant?
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Postby Steve-o » Sat Nov 11, 2006 6:38 pm

Pogotheostrich wrote:
gfantasy wrote:
Havok1517 wrote:Heilman is a starter and the Mets will probably use him that way if they can find good MR to replace him. Heilman was too valuable in the pen to change him midseason to the rotation.


I think he's an effective pitcher, period. IMO he'd make a good starter and has already proven hes great in MR.

I thought he only has command of 2 pitches right now. The fastball and splitter. Isn't the rap on him that the slider and changeup are just too inconsistant?


I heard the same thing. Since he's a two trick pony that means relief is his game.
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