CraigMasbruch wrote:TheYanks04 wrote:The_Met_Threat wrote:TheYanks04 wrote:Trot Nixon wrote:Does someone like Matt Holliday come close to being a 1st rounder?
No imo. Solid round 4-6 guy imo.
4-6? Were you in a coma for this past season?
One year at 34/114 does not make him round 1-3 material imo. You want to put Atkins there as well? His numbers are comparable and he plays 3b. A top 20's overall pick I just do not see. Top 30's sure.
First of all, a top 30's pick would make him a third rounder. Second of all, Atkins's numbers are not comparable. Third of all, Holliday did what many experts expected him to do this season: run a little and hit a lot. I don't think that makes him a first rounder, but if you see him in the fourth to sixth round you need to find a better league, because you're playing against 9-year-old girls.
The round is determinate by the depth of the league. I use a ten team league as it is a general standard. If you like 12 team leagues and want to use that fine. Either way he is not top 29 material imo. You have to factor in at least 4 - 7 pitchers going in the top 30 in most leagues also (Santana, Halladay, Carpenter, Oswalt for sure).
And using Rototimes base values for 2006, Holliday returned $32...Atkins $29. Essentially the same under 5x5 Roto, 10 team rules.
Players that will get picked before Holliday in almost all drafts I should think (in no particular order):
12. Carlos Lee
27. Suzuki (Probably, though I would not)
28. Dye (Ditto)
Alreadyin the late 20's overall and that is before we get to some debateables based on owners draft strategies such as VMart, Mauer, Zambrano, KRod, Rollins, H. Ramirez, V. Wells, A. Jones, Abreu, Konerko, Thome, Aram, etc. I can see Holliday go i the 30's. I do not see him going before that usually.