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rmande09 wrote:SS, this is the problem: you always like to fight against the majority just for Edited for language and giggles. Enough conclusive evidence? Well, I just provided it to you. Miller has massive control issues and tends to give up a lot of fly balls on his four-seamer. Pitchers who can bring it and tend to give up fly balls give up home runs. Beyond that, Miller only has two pitches and his control is average on one, his fastball, and below average on his second, his slider. He has all the makings to be an ace, but he still has a ways to go to get there. Master his command of his two pitches now, which could easily become PLUS pitches, and then develop a third pitch, hopefully his change. He probably WILL be effective out of the 'pen this season (and I'm certain you'll be sure to overrate him BIG TIME) simply because he throws anywhere from 95-98 out of the 'pen and his slider is filthy, even though it ends up all over the place. He only needs two pitches as a reliever.
On the other hand, there is Hughes, who gives you prettt much everything you could ask for. He's 20 and has some of the best control in the minors. A sub-2.2 BB/9 is just out of this world for a 20 year old in AA. He combines the best part of a finesse pitcher (control) with the best part of a power pitcher (power stuff). He has two PLUS pitches in his fastball and curveball and can throw both for a strike whenever the hell he wants. He has a change that is above average and is a downer, which basically means it has no tilt in either directions which gives him the ability to throw to both righties and lefties. It's not as good, in terms of stuff, as his 1 and 2, but he can throw it consistently. He also has a slider, which is average, but it can be used as a show-me pitch and again, he is very consistent with it. So he has four pitches he can throw over the plate whenever he needs to. He also keeps balls on the ground, which, as a power prospect, is a very rare and VERY GOOD thing.
You could throw Hughes into the Bigs right now and he would be successful, moreso than guys like Hirsh and Garza. He brings consistency, excellent stuff, great composure, and great control to the table at just 20 years old. I'm a Sox fan through and through, and it hurts me to say this, but in 3 or 4 years, this kid could be one of the better pitchers in the league, and it wouldn't surprise me if he was a top 5 starter in 5 years.
shortsavage wrote:Hummmm, I'm not trying to go against the grain for fun. Proclaiming that and saying I will try to overrate him big time this September are pretty brash assumptions.
rmande09 wrote:You have clearly shown (and admitted) your tendency to overvalue this draft class.
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