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Dice wrote:Stoopid Robb Nen and Trevor Hoffman cost me a chance at first in my points league.
Dice wrote:Russ Ortiz is a good pitcher, but the 20+ wins he'll get this year shouldn't fool anyone. His walk rate is staggering.
Based on what happened this year, I'd say every closer in baseball. It's too unpredictable. Stoopid Robb Nen and Trevor Hoffman cost me a chance at first in my points league.
R-Tehst wrote:damn, everyone here seems to sh*t on Loaiza. If hitters couldn't figure him out all of this year, why would they next year. It's not like he's getting lucky. If you've seen him pitch, you can see that he's fooling the hitters.
Dice wrote:I didn't draft the guys, but Nen and Hoffman were my early season attempts to fill the hole in my bullpen relatively cheaply. After the draft, my bullpen consisted of Braden Looper, J.C. Romero, and nothing else. If either of them panned out, I wouldn't have had to spend the first 2/3 of the season liquidating assets in a desperate attempt to get closers. The list of guys I threw at the hole is long and distinguished. Every schmoe from Brandon Villafuerte to Armando Benitez. So that's why I'm ending up in 3rd or 4th rather than 1st or 2nd. The point is, closers are overrated because managers have shorter attention spans than we do.
Lofunzo wrote:jdh wrote:I've seen him on TV several times. The problem I have with him is that he has never won more than 13 games before this season, has a history of serious arm problems, and if this is a breakout season, he's doing it at a very late age. Maybe he is a late bloomer like Schilling, but I would bet against it. I think he'll either spend signifigant time on the DL or have a major drop off next season. I just don't trust him.
He was either a back of the rotation guy on Atlanta or on a terrible Pirates team. Not much chance for victories there. With the Giants, he is just coming into his own the past 2 years (including this 1). I have also never seen him bring the gas like he has these past 2 years. I say put him on your TO DRAFT list.
jdh.......I respect the way that you acquire and analyze numbers but in this instance, the numbers DO lie.
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