DevilDriver wrote: acsguitar wrote:
IllinoisBandit wrote:I think Ortiz and Manny will cancel each other out. Knowing the writers in this country, Jeter will probably win an undeserved MVP.
Manny IS a slightly better hitter than Ortiz, but not nearly as likeable.
Yea you are right....
Batting .350 with 9 + Hr's 68 Rbi's 78 runs and 25 stolent bases is worthless plus I hear he's the worst shortstop ever to play baseball ever.
Jeter's .350 AVG is his only MVP-worthy stat and it's not even tops in the AL. Ortiz leads MLB in both HR and RBI plus how many walkoff hits does he have? I'm not saying Jeter isn't worthy of winning MVP, because he is for carrying the Yanks through all the injuries and keeping them in the race, but Ortiz is more deserving as of right now.
Ortiz has only created 2 more runs this year than Jeter. However, Jeter has had about 20 less plate appearances. Jeter creates more runs per game than Ortiz...8.9 runs for Jeter....8.3 runs for Ortiz. Jeter is tied for the league lead in win shares, with Mauer and Manny, at 22. Ortiz has 19. He's also tied for win shares above bench player (WSAB) with Mauer, Manny and Thome, at 14. Jeter also ranks 6th in the MLB in VORP, at 55.9. Ortiz ranks 9th in the MLB, at 52.8. Ortiz has Jeter in OPS by a significant margin.
Now, read all of that and take into consideration that Jeter is a shortstop. Putting up comparable numbers to slugging 1st basemen and outfielders as a #2 hitting shortstop is remarkable.
I'm not saying he's the MVP, but he's neck and neck with Ortiz, and is having a much better season than you're giving him credit for.