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A's wrote:BronXBombers51 wrote:A's wrote:buffalobillsrul2002 wrote:If the Angels show up, their rotation should be deadly. Weaver and Lackey are an amazing 2/1, and Colon and Escobar are great #3/#4 pitchers. Saunders is a decent enough #5. Vlad alone makes that lineup tough, and they have speed guys around him in Izturis, Figgins, etc. The bullpen is tough with Shields and K-Rod, and even Donnelly is pretty good.
Rangers should come in 2nd. Decent bullpen actually, even without Cordero, but lack of experience down there could hurt them. Top of the rotation is Ok, about as good as the As without Harden. Lineup should come around, especially Tex and now the addition of Carlos lee
As in my mind are 3rd. They have a rotation worse than the Angels (even with harden), and their lineup is mediocre at best. The bullpen is ok. They can field though, the As. That's really the only advantage they have.
Let me addresss some things to you Athletics haters, first of , the angels do have the best rotation wait let me say did have, colon is injured and will need time to get to his old way. Angels bullpen isn't as good case proven with Shields struggles as late and his their best reliever, f. rodriguez is good though.
Texas doesnt have the pitching to win, they do have a good offense . so they are exploitable
I like the mariners a lot, they are a balanced team, speed and power, with good pitching
But the A's own them this season, sweeping them twice
The angels are the team they were in the start of the season, we would of swept you guys if it weren't of blanton's errors.
A's will win
And you aren't the least bit biased?
The Angels still have a very good rotation, even without Colon. John Lackey might be the best starting pitcher in the entire division. Jered Weaver is extremely impressive thus far. Escobar and Santana are better options than any other 4/5 combo in the West.
It is true that the Angels have a weak offense, but Oakland has been much worse...scoring approximately 35 runs less than the Angels.
You say that Texas has a good offense but no pitching, so they are exploitable. On the other hand, Oakland has pitching but no offense...but they are not exploitable? Sure they are. Texas has scored 548 runs compared to Oakland's 479. Not to mention the fact that Texas was the only to to bolster their roster at the trade deadline, by acquiring a proven slugger in Carlos Lee, who will further impact their team, and exploit the gigantic gap between the offenses of themselves and the A's/Angels.
I'm not discounting Oakland. I think they have a very good shot at the division. But it is nowhere near as certain as you make it seem. Right now, I'd pick the Angels. On the other hand, I'm liking Texas more and more based on how their offense looks, and how they've been playing lately. The truth is, the division is a crapshoot. I wouldn't be surprised to see any of them win it. Just because people say the Athletics have weaknesses, doesn't mean they are 'hating' on the A's. It means that the A's have weaknesses, just as everyone else in the divison does.
Saying that the A's will win, as if it's a certainty makes you look foolish. It is far from such.
I am an A's fan, so yes I might be biased but if you look over Oakland offense, first of all we have not had Bradley in our lineup consistently. We have 2 hitters Thomas and Swisher who have more Humeruns together than any other two players combined in the division. Swisher will only get better, just sophomore jinx that he will get over. Oakland has a great offense, but injuries have plagued their good hitters, chavez forearm tendinitis and bradley's back. We have Kotsay who just got player of the week last week. Are only weaknesses are mark ellis who played good last year but seems like it was a fluke, and crosby hasn't improved since he won the AL rookie of the year. Jay Payton is good when given enough at bats. Kendall's bat has shrunk but his main purpose is too guide the pitching staff.
The angels dont have a good rotation because they have an injured ace. And a rookie, dont get me wrong rookies can be very good case proven papelbon but they will make mistakes. That's what blanton, haren went thru last year. Angels have two saunders and weaver who still need more seasoning.
And texas always fades under pressure. Just because they added wells that still gives them a weak rotation, i know because the A's traded Koronka to the rangers. Rangers will need to prove they are good if they are consistent with their offense. Consistent means going weeks with steady run production not one night 14 runs and the other 2.
It'll will be a fun division to watch same as all the other American League division's.
michaelp wrote:The Athletics should be the team to have the American League West crown
The angels will be in close second, it will be decided in the 4 game series(A's will win) at the end of the season
Mariners and Rangers are a toss up, both are good teams, it could possibly beat the angels for second
Angels are to overrated, if they did have such a good pitching staff, why did they Ace lose their first game and their other good pitcher melt in the 6th or 7th inning. Angels fans underestimate the Oakland rotation, Blanton was playing very solid that night and only lost the game due to his own mistakes. Haren seems to own the Angels. Zito having a good year because of his contract year, and no better time then this year, so the A's were smart by not trading him, it would of been seasoncide lol, E. Loiza is inconsistent but has nasty stuff, going 6+ innings the final game of the series and only giving up 2 runs. Komine looks like he will see some more starts, after pitching very well against the Jays, Windsor is as good or better as J. Saunders, just like Street, Windsor was a dominating Closer in College, I dont know if thats going to help him as a Starter but the A's might consider converting him to a reliever not a setup man, the A's already have Calero who ever since came from the Cardinals in the Mulder and Haren trade has shined, and plus the A's have the All-star J. Duscherer who has been out with injuries but pitching good now. and he will also get innings for the role of Setup man.
It it were to come down to pitching to win the division the A's would come on top. Not because of their rotation but the whole core of the pitching.
The A's just need to concentrate on getting healthy, if they wanna win games, they need Bradley to stop being like pre 06 Garciaparra(actually he recentley got hurt), and have a consistent offense perfoming runs. Utilizing Bradley the way they have lately is smart, but they have to be careful no to overuse him.
Phatferd wrote:You won the series, it's not like the Angels went into Oakland a couple weeks ago and took 3 of 4...They are pretty comparable teams and there are still 7 games to be played by both, so don't get ahead of yourself.
The fact that you can't even say the Angels have a better rotation than the A's is laughable. Haren is as good as the Angels number 3. After Haren there is nobody better than any of the other starters. Harden if healthy is very solid, but he's not.
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