Smileyman9 wrote:I've argued the point a million times -
1) TB is a small market team - therefore they can't just call up minor league players at a whim without it costing them money in the long run.
If you were the GM of that team you'd be smart to do what they're doing.
2) Upton & Young are really the two well known guys here, neither of them is old - Gomes was 25 I think before he got called up.
3) Start of the season, unless people have forgotten already TB had a logjam in the OF...and as a result that overflowed to the IF where Huff found himself placed.
4) Uptons defense is poor, he should use his energy to figure out how to improve himself there before complaining anymore.
5) Pure hypothesis here on my part but I would suspect had Delmon not gone and gotten himself suspended, he would have been called up by now.
6) Dukes I don't think is in the longterm plans of the Devil Rays given they have Crawford and Baldelli occupying the other two OF slots...Unless Dukes plays first base too - in which case who knows what the excuse is for not bringing him up other then maybe to not upset Delmon/Upton for having someone else called before them.
Smileyman, please, I beg you-do the math.
The Rays are a small market team. I'm telling you, they stand to lose much more doe by keeping these kids unneccessarily toiling in the minors.
1. The GM is NOT SMART for keeping them down. The club is losing money bigtime right now. The only thing that will save them is the payroll tax that teams like the Yankees will pay the league as a function of their payroll. Assuming these kids are the real deal (a big assumption), I am convinced the Rays will draw 10K more fans per game after they market these kids. Taking 30 home games this year, that equates to 300,000 more fannies in the seats. (Look at Minnesota last night-the main attraction-Liriano-sold out that stadium last night. You want to see the difference one player can make-look there. I know you will say the Tigers had something to do with it, but I would argue those fans came out to see 'The Franchise', Mr. Liriano). That's 300,000 extra fans for the rest of the year. If we assume the avg seat generates 50 bucks in total revenue, at 300,000 times 50 bucks, we come up with 15 million bucks in additional gross revenue for the franchise. Assuming a 30% variable cost application to revenues, you've got a net profit to the franchise of 10 million bucks this year alone. I figure the franchise loses net profits of approx. $ 333,333.33 per home game these kids stay down on the farm. I can therefore conclude, over the course of a season, the franchise stands to lose $ 27.3 million dollars with this present approach.
How is this at all, remotely, considered good general managing???
2. By your logic (promoting at age 25), Andrew Jones, Miguel Cabrera, Liriano, Verlander, and about 250 more MLB stars should still be in the minor leagues. Leaving a player down in the minors until age 25 costs the franchise (see calculation above) hundreds of millions of dollars, not to mention the terrible ill-will created and fostered with the player that will result in 2 things-not keeping any player after their service time is up, and not having a hope of signing any stud free agents after the season is over. Again, a terrible way to run a franchise.
3. As stated on numerous threads already, I don't think anyone can seriously argue that Damon Hollins represents any material barrier to major league service time. I mean, where not talking Albert Pujols here. Huff (who should have been dealt last year) is gone, as is Joey Gathright. Rays management should have traded these guys for some front line pitching. That would have been smart management.
4. Smart management would have put Upton in a position to succeed, i.e., finding a position he could actually do well at, instead of insisting he play shortstop-where we already have a potential all star in Lugo. You know, like moving Upton to 3B at the BEGINNING of the year, or even last year.
5. If Young would have been up already if not for the "incident", then bring him up now-since he's served his time. Otherwise, it really does sound like just excuses.
6. I actually agree with you about Dukes.