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Postby The Loveable Losers » Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:53 pm

mweir145 wrote:
j_d_mcnugent wrote:
Chrisy Moltisanti wrote:
Can believe it's only 6 posts on this. The weaklings and/or sheep couldn't get enough of this drama before.

thats because this isnt news.

Exactly. Tell me when they actually get enough evidence to indict him for something.

If they ever do. The perjury's going to be tough as Bonds never denied using the cream and the clear...he just denied knowing what they were. Tax evasion should be fairly easy to prove if it really happened but it's starting to look more and more like this is vendetta related so the tax evasion may just have been something to hold over Bonds head rather than a legitimate charge.

I'll confess though to not knowing much about the leaks in the case since I'm not so apt to trust leaks like're getting a one-sided view of things that the government wants to give you there. I'm not sure how much has been leaked on the tax evasion end of things. I will say this though - if a guy that makes as much money as Bonds actually DID evade taxes he deserves a Willy Nelson stupidity award. What possesses people with more money than they could possibly need to break the law to save a few bucks?
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Postby bigh0rt » Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:03 pm wrote:New grand jury to look at Bonds allegations

SAN FRANCISCO -- They aren't through with Barry Bonds, not yet.

The federal grand jury considering possible perjury and tax-evasion
charges against the star slugger expired Thursday without an indictment.
Hours later, Bonds' personal trainer, Greg Anderson, walked out of a
prison where he spent two weeks for refusing to testify against his
childhood friend.

"We are not finished," U.S. Attorney Kevin Ryan said. "We have postponed
the decision [to indict] for another day in light of some recent

Though prosecutors wouldn't confirm the existence of a new grand jury,
Anderson's lawyer, Mark Geragos, said there was one.

He said his client has been subpoenaed to testify before a new panel
that will take up the question of whether Bonds lied under oath when he
said he never knowingly took performance-enhancing drugs. Geragos said
Anderson won't budge.

"They can subpoena him every day for the rest of this year, and it
doesn't matter," Geragos said. "He's not going to talk."

Bonds arrived at AT&T Park with his 16-year-old batboy son. As reporters
moved toward his locker, team spokesman Blake Rhodes said Bonds would
have no comment.

However, Bonds did make a statement on his Web site.

"First off, I would like to say that what happened today is not a moment
of joy for me, but one of temporary relief," Bonds wrote on "This has been an issue that has surrounded me for the
past three years and I hope that this is the end.

"An investigation happened and hopefully it is over. I do want to make
it clear that there are no hard feelings for the legal process, but I
feel there comes a point where everyone needs to move on."

Bonds hit his 722nd career home run Thursday night against San Diego,
but left the ballpark without speaking to reporters.

Major League Baseball also declined to comment.

Giants owner Peter Magowan said he hoped to see a resolution soon.

"I think all of us would like to see a resolution, I mean everybody in
baseball," Magowan said. "I'm sure the commissioner would like to see
one, I'm sure Barry would like to see one, and I'm sure the fans would
like to see one."

Speculation has been mounting for weeks that Bonds, one of the biggest
names in professional sports, would be indicted Thursday with the grand
jury expiring. His lawyers had said they were preparing a defense.

But soon after the grand jury reported to the federal courthouse for the
final day of its probe, the U.S. Attorney's office issued a statement
saying it "is not seeking an indictment [Thursday] in connection with
the ongoing steroids-related investigation."

"They don't even have enough to indict a ham sandwich, let alone Barry
Bonds," the slugger's lawyer, Michael Rains, said.

Joseph Russienello, the U.S. Attorney in San Francisco from 1982 to
1990, said handing the case off to a new grand jury means the federal
government can lock up Anderson for the length of the new grand jury's
term, which could extend beyond a year. The threat of a lengthy jail
term can convince even the most intransigent witnesses to cave.

"It's no longer a two-week vacation," Russienello said. "Twelve months
usually has a way of getting people sensitized to giving truthful

Rains said there was "temporary relief in the news we heard today." But
he seemed to back away slightly from Bonds' earlier statements that he
didn't know the substances given to him by Anderson were steroids.

"He was suspicious in light of what he had read as to whether those were
steroids or not," Rains told reporters outside the federal courthouse.

Anderson appears to be the key to whether perjury charges could stick
against Bonds.

"We will continue to move forward actively in this investigation --
including continuing to seek the truthful testimony of witnesses whose
testimony the grand jury is entitled to hear," said Luke Macaulay, a
spokesman for Ryan.

Bonds testified in 2003 that he thought substances given to him by
Anderson were arthritis balm and flaxseed oil. Authorities suspected
Bonds was lying and that those items were "the clear" and "the cream" --
two performance-enhancing drugs tied to the Bay Area Laboratory
Co-Operative, the lab exposed as a steroids supplier to top athletes in
baseball, track and other sports.

Although Bonds was promised immunity as long as he told the truth,
doubts soon surfaced.

* His former girlfriend, Kimberly Bell, testified the slugger told her
he had used steroids, according to Bell's lawyer. Bonds' attorney
accused Bell of trying to extort money from Bonds and using the platform
to promote a book that never was published.

* IRS agent Jeff Novitzky, lead investigator in the steroids probe, said
in court filings that BALCO founder Victor Conte told him Bonds used
"the clear" on a regular basis.

* Federal agents who raided Anderson's house seized doping calendars,
price lists and other documents pointing to Bonds' use of steroids and
human growth hormone. Federal prosecutors say they need Anderson, in
part, to interpret the calendars, which seem to spell out Bonds'
schedule for using performance-enhancing drugs.

Anderson was one of five men convicted in the BALCO scandal. He was
sentenced to three months behind bars and three months of home
confinement in October after pleading guilty to money laundering and
steroid distribution.

He was called to testify before the perjury grand jury and refused. A
federal judge found him in contempt of court and ordered him jailed.

Geragos protested, saying Anderson was the victim of an illegal
government wiretap and that because Anderson's refusal to cooperate with
government investigators is noted in his earlier plea agreement, he
cannot be forced to testify.

"He took three months in jail rather than cooperate," Geragos said.

He also says Anderson can't trust that his testimony will be kept
confidential because other BALCO grand jury testimony has been leaked to
the press. Excerpts of testimony by Bonds and other key players in the
case was published by the San Francisco Chronicle.

Geragos said he plans to repeat the same arguments.

Bonds' lawyer said Bonds was elated when he heard of Anderson's release
and asked when the two can start working out together again.

"He's hoping this is the end of it," Rains said, "but he doesn't know
that, nor do I."

Allegations of steroid use long have plagued Bonds, who passed Babe Ruth
in May to become second only to Hank Aaron on the career home run list.
They intensified in late 2003, when he testified before the original
BALCO grand jury, which took testimony from about two dozen athletes.

Without Anderson's help, prosecutors still could indict Bonds on charges
alleging he failed to pay taxes on money made through sales of
autographs and other memorabilia. There is also the possibility Bonds
could be indicted on perjury charges without Anderson's testimony.

"There comes a point in time ... where everybody needs to move on,"
Rains said. "We hope we have arrived at that point today."

Information from The Associated Press was used in this
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Postby Apollo » Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:02 pm

Long story short: nothing to see here.

This doesn't say much at all about the prosecution's ability to put a case together against Bonds. It sounds like they put off the indictment just to put pressure against Anderson. For all we know, they could've gotten the indictment easily but want to soften Anderson up to make sure he testifies at the real trial.

The Bonds-haters will shout that this is a temporary delay because they have so much evidence to introduce. The Bonds-defenders will shout that this means they don't have enough to indict. But you really can't take much of anything out of this. We'll just have to wait and see.
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Postby TownDrunk » Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:35 am

I could make a long list of things I'd rather see the government be doing, rather than trying to go after Bonds.

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Postby kentx12 » Sat Jul 22, 2006 9:29 pm

TownDrunk wrote:I could make a long list of things I'd rather see the government be doing, rather than trying to go after Bonds.

I couldn't.. ;-D
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Postby mweir145 » Sat Jul 22, 2006 9:39 pm

kentx12 wrote:
TownDrunk wrote:I could make a long list of things I'd rather see the government be doing, rather than trying to go after Bonds.

I couldn't.. ;-D

Wow... 8-o :-?
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Postby TheYanks04 » Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:11 pm

kentx12 wrote:
TownDrunk wrote:I could make a long list of things I'd rather see the government be doing, rather than trying to go after Bonds.

I couldn't.. ;-D

Neither could I. Putting criminals behind bars is what they are supposed to do.
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Postby Splendid61 » Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:27 am

Neither could I. Putting criminals behind bars is what they are supposed to do.

Why don't they start with Rafael Palmeiro then. Shouldn't there be a perjury case against him?

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Postby Lofunzo » Sun Jul 23, 2006 11:10 am

Why is there little interest in this thread?? I really think that there is a direct correllation between production and care in this matter. I always said that the main reason that Bonds got so much heat was because he was excelling and breaking records. Now that he is struggling, he is almost an afterthought.

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Postby deadfish65 » Sun Jul 23, 2006 11:42 am

I dont think he's struggling. He is near the top of the league in most of the important stats.
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