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Postby Omaha Red Sox » Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:25 pm

Coppermine wrote:You could always be like the religious kid whose parents made you leave when the cheesey sex-ed video with the bunnies comes on.


Is that wrong or just amusing? :-?

If my kid were in public school I'd keep him home that day.
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Postby acsguitar » Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:27 pm

Fireball Express wrote:They should just teach the kids how to have oral and anal sex. No one gets pregnant that way. ;-7

Seriously, you give a kid a condom and show him how to use it he will just go out and use it. Then the next time he doesn't have one he'll still have sex anyway.

The problem is that the rest of society glamorizes sex so it doesn't matter what they teach in the schools. It all starts at home like so many things.


To me at least its a waste of money. I learned all about sex from everyday life. I didn't need a teacher showing me how to put a condom on a bannanna
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Postby PlayingWithFire » Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:40 pm

Of course it's the responsibility of parents. But those that has problem with teenage pregnancy and unprotected sex usually don't have responsible parents. Maybe because I'm Asian and we are usually discrete about sex. But I don't think it would be comfortable learning about this kind of stuff in class with your classmates. Luckly for me, the Burnaby school district only has a 20 minutes session about how to put on a condom. I don't know how they teaches it in the US though.
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Postby 5 » Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:42 pm

Yup, parents are just lazy or don't want to deal with it...but at some point they'll have to....or else blame someone else when the stork comes a callin'.

Someone's gotta teach kids.
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Postby Dan Lambskin » Mon Jul 17, 2006 2:01 pm

no matter what you tell them, teens are gonna get it on...might as well encourage them to do it safely.

...and i learned about this stuff like most other teens...by getting porn from the older neighborhood kids
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Postby Art Vandelay » Mon Jul 17, 2006 2:01 pm

I find it amusing that if the topic is sex, it should be the responsibility of the parents to teach right from wrong and responsible practices rather than the government. But when the topic is drugs it's up to the government. We need laws, we need DARE programs, we can't leave it up to parents. I would wager that more lives have been adversly affected by sex than by drugs.

Anyway, to try to stay on topic, abstinence-only education has been a colossal failure. If someone really wants their children to learn abstinence only they should take them out of school during sex ed. The rest of the kids should get a true education.
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Postby PlayingWithFire » Mon Jul 17, 2006 2:05 pm

Drugs, Sex, Alcohol are all responsibilities of parents. My dad gave me a cigarette to smoke when I was six, never touched one since ;-D

though the same tactic with beer didn't work :-D
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Postby Absolutely Adequate » Mon Jul 17, 2006 2:10 pm

I think this should be fine for a PG-13 crowd. There are no curse words, at least. But if not, I apologize. I thought it was trenchant and funny and pretty much sums up my view on the subject.

Bill Maher wrote:Abstinence pledges make you horny. In a setback for the morals/values crowd, a new eight-year study just released reveals that American teenagers who take virginity pledges wind up with just as many STD's as the other kids. But that's not all. "Taking the pledge" also makes a teenage girl six times more likely to perform oral sex, and four times more likely to allow anal. Which leads me to an important question: where were these pledges when I was in high school?

So, seriously, when I was a teenager, the only kids having anal intercourse, were the ones who missed. My idea of lubrication was oiling my bike chain. If I had known I could have been getting porn-star sex the same year I took Algebra 2 - simply by joining up with the Christian right - I'd have been so down with Jesus, they would have had to pry me out of the pew.

And, let me tell you, there is a lot worse things than teenagers having sex. Namely, teenagers not having sex. Here is something you'll never hear: "That suicide bomber blew himself up because he was having too much sex. Sex, sex, sex, nonstop, all that crazy Arab ever had was sex, and look what happened." But among the puritans here of the 21st century, the less said to kids about sex, the better. Because people who talk about peepees are "potty-mouths."

And so, armed with limited knowledge and believing that regular, vaginal intercourse to be either immaculate or filthy dirty - these kids did with their pledge what everybody does with contracts. They found loopholes. Two of them, to be exact.

Is there any greater irony than the fact that the Christian right actually got their precious little adolescent daughters to say to their freshly-scrubbed boyfriends, "Please, I want to remain pure for my wedding night, so only in the ass... And then I'll blow you, I promise." Well, at least these kids are really thinking outside the box.
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Postby Dan Lambskin » Mon Jul 17, 2006 2:12 pm

Absolutely Adequate wrote:I think this should be fine for a PG-13 crowd. There are no curse words, at least. But if not, I apologize. I thought it was trenchant and funny and pretty much sums up my view on the subject.

Bill Maher wrote:Abstinence pledges make you horny. In a setback for the morals/values crowd, a new eight-year study just released reveals that American teenagers who take virginity pledges wind up with just as many STD's as the other kids. But that's not all. "Taking the pledge" also makes a teenage girl six times more likely to perform oral sex, and four times more likely to allow anal. Which leads me to an important question: where were these pledges when I was in high school?

So, seriously, when I was a teenager, the only kids having anal intercourse, were the ones who missed. My idea of lubrication was oiling my bike chain. If I had known I could have been getting porn-star sex the same year I took Algebra 2 - simply by joining up with the Christian right - I'd have been so down with Jesus, they would have had to pry me out of the pew.

And, let me tell you, there is a lot worse things than teenagers having sex. Namely, teenagers not having sex. Here is something you'll never hear: "That suicide bomber blew himself up because he was having too much sex. Sex, sex, sex, nonstop, all that crazy Arab ever had was sex, and look what happened." But among the puritans here of the 21st century, the less said to kids about sex, the better. Because people who talk about peepees are "potty-mouths."

And so, armed with limited knowledge and believing that regular, vaginal intercourse to be either immaculate or filthy dirty - these kids did with their pledge what everybody does with contracts. They found loopholes. Two of them, to be exact.

Is there any greater irony than the fact that the Christian right actually got their precious little adolescent daughters to say to their freshly-scrubbed boyfriends, "Please, I want to remain pure for my wedding night, so only in the ass... And then I'll blow you, I promise." Well, at least these kids are really thinking outside the box.


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Postby 5 » Mon Jul 17, 2006 2:17 pm

That was one those NEW RULES, right?

It sounds famililar.
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