joshheines wrote:God, just when I get out you drag me back in. Derek Jeter? A lock. Can you say Overhype? Say it with me, "Overhype." Derek Jeter will be extremely lucky to get in the HOF (he will because he is in NY and a media darling, but doesn't deserve it).
From the top. Jeter has finished lower than 10th in MVP voting exactly twice. He's finished in the top ten in OPS once. Despite his phenomenal AVG, he's finished in the top 10 in OBP 4 times. He's had 2 seasons of .400 OBP and 1 season of .500 + SLG.
And, please, don't bring up Mr. Jeter's defense. He's been a below average defender his entire career and doesn't deserve either of his gold gloves. Up until the last two years Jeter's defense actually cost the Yankees about 20 runs per year.
Also, don't bring up Mr. Clutch post-season. It's ridiculous media-hype. Jeter's regular season numbers: .314/.386/.461. His post-season numbers: .307/.379/.463. Couldn't be more identical unless they were identical. If you really want to nit-pick, the majority of his post-season numbers were accumulated in the League Division series. His League Championship numbers are deplorable: .262/.339/.405. And his WS numbers are below his career averages: .302/.375/.434.
Simply, by the numbers, Jeter does not belong in the HOF. He's neither SS with a slick glove, nor the clutch post-season player the media portrays him as.
Of course Jeter's overhyped. Hype may be his middle name. That doesn't change the fact that he's one of the premier SS of this generation and compared to the SS (not the league, which is the problem with your analysis; you compare players to the league when you should be comparing them to their contemporaries) is a top performer.
Whether you like it or not you can't discount the rings that he has or the portrayal of him in the media's eye or the people's eye, because they won't. Jeter is easily in the Hall, even if you don't think he deserves it (and I think he does).