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Absolutely Adequate wrote:Madison wrote:Where did I tell you to leave the country in this thread? Show me. I said people have the option of leaving (which is true), but where did I say that you should leave? Yet another pathetic attempt of yours to put words in my mouth, and quite frankly you're only making yourself look bad when you pull crap like this.I already covered this, but it is a fact that if you're born into this country and do not agree with what it stands for, and was founded on, no one is forcing you to stay. Plenty of other countries out there that you're free to go to, and free to suggest that they change their policies, practices, and standards to meet what you want, or think is acceptable.
Tell you what. Try and stick to the topic of discussion. You say that the country was founded on God. I say it wasn't.
You offered as proof a 50 year old pledge. I offer the Constitution.
You offer as proof a 50 year old motto (http://www.ustreas.gov/education/fact-s ... rust.shtml)
If you don't have any proof, you're no good to me. Like I tell my students, you can't prove anything without actual proof.
And I'd appreciate it if you could keep the personal attacks to a minimum.
Madison wrote:You attacked me first with a boldface lie ! Of course I'm going to fire back. You know that, and it's exactly why you attacked me first. You want this to get personal because you have zero legs to stand on as far as proof. This country was founded with a belief in God (among other things), you know that (as does anyone with an ounce of common sense), and you cannot disprove it, which is why you'd rather fire off attacks and insults. It's laughable.
Oh, and as to what you quoted, if you cannot realize that the "if you're born into" is a generalization of "you" meaning all people born into this country, then you're not nearly as bright as I give you credit for.
Absolutely Adequate wrote:Forget it. I'm done with you. You clearly don't understand the idea of evidence. In the discussion re: minimum wage you didn't give any proof. You just kept saying "nuh-uh." You're doing the same thing here. You keep saying this country was founded to include God in our government but give no proof. Proof!
AA wrote:I told no lies. Maybe I was wrong and you didn't mean that I should leave the country. But it wasn't a lie. It's a difference of interpretation.
AA wrote:But let me say this: If you believe that this country was founded on God, you need to take another history course.
Absolutely Adequate wrote:Are you kidding me? What, exactly, was irrational? Where I insisted that if I'm in an argument that my opponent should counter with proof instead of just saying "Nuh-uh?"
In trying to keep this civil, I'm not going to respond to the other tripe you typed, but I'd appreciate an apology.
This country was founded with a belief in God (among other things), you know that (as does anyone with an ounce of common sense), and you cannot disprove it, which is why you'd rather fire off attacks and insults.
Madison wrote:The pitching got better? I can't help but laugh at that. Replace Mulder/Hudson with two kids and people actually believe their pitching got better.....Lol. Sorry, just humerous to me. Had Zito been one of the two traded, then I might say there was an argument to be made that just maybe they actually did get better, but you're talking about replacing their #1 and #2 starters with kids. I think only my Rangers could replace their #1 and #2 starters with kids and actually wind up with a better rotation. Lol.
You're right about the Angels starting pitching. It's not that good. Colon will rebound some, but they still need some help. Anderson is back, so losing Guillen shouldn't be that big of a deal. They also have Finley now. The offense is there, it's just a matter of their starting pitching. It should be good enough to win them the division though.
The A's starting pitching improved this offseason.......haha......*walks away chuckling*.....
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