mweir145 wrote:McGowan hasn't been bypassed by those pitchers at all. He's the guy who came up to the majors last season, and struggled, just like both of them are right now. It's only a matter of time until both of them get sent down again, and Dustin is given another chance. From what I can tell, and there's no reason not to assume it (the Jays did give him a starting spot in AAA for a reason), he's still very much in their starting plans into the future, and possibly will return over the next few weeks to months. The only reason McGowan wasn't the #1 option was because they felt he wasn't major league ready yet, but it appears that Janssen and Taubenheim really weren't ready either.
Janssen and Taubenheim were called up to the majors much earlier then McGowan was last year, they have already made many more starts in the majors then McGowan did last year. Why? Since they have surpassed him. Why are they ready and he isnt? Because they have surpassed them. If it is not obvious to you, then you are just oblivious to reality.
Ricky Romero hasn't passed anybody yet. He's still facing single A talent.
AA, not A. He will be up with the team before McGowan, you will see, as usual I will be right and you will be wrong. It might take a few years, but that is still earlier then McGowan.
And as for Purcey, well we're talking about a guy who was drafted only 2 freaking years ago. He made it all the way up to AAA this year, but it appears like JP has realized he rushed him. To berade some guy because he hasn't made the major leagues in 2 years, well that is a joke my friend.
When as a 24 year old you have been demoted to AA ball from AAA ball, in an organization with suspect pitching depth. Yep really promising, to be a future waterbody maybe. So he entered the draft at a later age, that does not mean he should be evaluated more on his draft date, then his age, and his progress for his age.
Wait...did you just call Pat Tabler and Jamie Campbell baseball experts? Why? Because they have a job covering the team? And that makes them knowledgeable about these things because...
They are baseball experts, they would not be hired to call 70% of Jays if they were not.
Ricciardi obviously felt that Taubenheim and Janssen were the more major league ready pitchers, I even remember him commenting on Janssen's mindset, and how it was different than most pitchers.
Exactly, both have surpassed McGowan, that is why they are ready for the majors and McGowan is not.
Randy Johnson, Jamie Moyer, Warren Spahn (he didn't have any real success until he was around 26).
I said between ages 27-29, not at age 25.
To blow past somebody, don't you have to have some kind of success at a higher level?
And again, this is a pretty dumb thing to argue about because all you can do is wait and see. Right now all you are doing is making outrageous claims.
Actually I know I am right already, but yeah we will wait and see me being right, and I will enjoy that, not sure about you.
The fact Janssen and Taubenheim are both struggling to so much right now and McGowan is still in AAA actually shows how superior they are as prospects to him.