Madison wrote:Art Vandelay wrote: Like I've been saying, drunk driving (in most instances) is already covered by other laws,
So by this logic, you're also against the new "hate crimes"? I mean murder is murder, yet now we have added "hate crimes" to murder when it's proven that something was done to someone simply due to their race, religion, sexual preferance, etc. Since murder, torture, etc, is already against the law, you don't think additional punishment, or a harsher punishment should be given to those who do it out of hate?
If somone chooses to drink and drive, I believe the punishment should be worse than simply a "reckless driving" charge. That person chose to put other people's lives in danger, buy putting themselves in a position that impaired their ability to handle a car.
Can't wait to see what you have to say when you have to blow into a machine before being allowed to leave a bar, and your blood alcohol level has to be below .08 in order for you to leave. And yes, that will be here relatively soon.
I don't think comparing drunk driving to a hate crime is really accurate, and to be completely honest, I haven't quite made up my mind on hate crime legislation yet. But the more I read and hear about it, the more I think it's BS. Although there are exceptions, for instance, I wouldn't mind someone facing an extra penalty for a "hate crime" if their hatred (racism, sexism, anti-semitism, what have you) is found to have definitely been a motive for the crime. But now we're going off on a totally different tangent.
As to your final paragraph: That's one of the reasons why we should stand up to this non-sense now. It's a slippery slope. I would refer you to one of the statements in the essay I posted:
What have we done by permitting government to criminalize the content of our blood instead of actions themselves? We have given it power to make the application of the law arbitrary, capricious, and contingent on the judgment of cops and cop technicians.
Although I don't think we will actually see that situation come to fruition. I can't see bars being allowed to hold somebody against their will when they wish to leave.