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Postby raiders_umpire » Tue May 23, 2006 3:04 pm

TheYanks04 wrote:
A: NO but he makes 25 Million, hits in the 3 or 4 hole and is largely responsible for the ALCS loss in 2004 and the ALDS loss in 2005. Did he have company in the loser's lounge...sure. He was the MOST culpable based on expectationa and salary though. No one expects Posada to carry the team in the 6 or 7 hole. No one expects Cano to carry the team batting 8th or 9th.

0 Hrs and 0 rbis vs Jarrod Washburn and Paul Byrd and other "Cy Young" pitchers from the AL MVP making 25 million? You want to defend that and the garbage he pulled 2004 ALCS games 4-7 leading to the biggest choke in sports history, be my guest. You do not make 25 million to sit there claiming you had good games ALCS 1-3 and as such can excuse stinking up the joint in the next 4 games while your team, largely because of you, chokes at historical levels.




Please send that .320 average, 48 homers, 130 rbis and 21 stolen bases to Tampa then if you are so unhappy with it.
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Postby josebach » Tue May 23, 2006 4:04 pm

What did Jeter do in the 2004 ALCS?
6 R, 0 HR, 4 RBI .200 BA

A-Rod?
8 R, 2 HR, 5 RBI, .258 BA

Yet we constantly see how bad A-Rod choked and see absolutley nothing negative about Jeter. :-?

From a personality standpoint, even I like Jeter more than A-Rod, but I'm not going to let it cloud my judgement.
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Postby cordscords » Tue May 23, 2006 4:22 pm

josebach wrote:What did Jeter do in the 2004 ALCS?
6 R, 0 HR, 4 RBI .200 BA

A-Rod?
8 R, 2 HR, 5 RBI, .258 BA

Yet we constantly see how bad A-Rod choked and see absolutley nothing negative about Jeter. :-?

From a personality standpoint, even I like Jeter more than A-Rod, but I'm not going to let it cloud my judgement.


We get it. Jeter sucked in the ALCS.

Jeter hasnt sucked in the playoffs before, and A-Rod (given in only a coulple season in the playoffs) has not had that huge moment.
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Postby BronXBombers51 » Tue May 23, 2006 4:29 pm

cordscords wrote:
josebach wrote:What did Jeter do in the 2004 ALCS?
6 R, 0 HR, 4 RBI .200 BA

A-Rod?
8 R, 2 HR, 5 RBI, .258 BA

Yet we constantly see how bad A-Rod choked and see absolutley nothing negative about Jeter. :-?

From a personality standpoint, even I like Jeter more than A-Rod, but I'm not going to let it cloud my judgement.


We get it. Jeter sucked in the ALCS.

Jeter hasnt sucked in the playoffs before, and A-Rod (given in only a coulple season in the playoffs) has not had that huge moment.


How wrong you are.

1996 World Series: .250 BA
1998 ALDS: .111 BA
1998 ALCS: .200 BA
2000 ALDS: .211 BA
2001 ALCS: .118 BA
2001 World Series: .148 BA
2003 ALCS: .233 BA
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Postby MMoNeY24 » Tue May 23, 2006 4:33 pm

BronXBombers51 wrote:
cordscords wrote:
josebach wrote:What did Jeter do in the 2004 ALCS?
6 R, 0 HR, 4 RBI .200 BA

A-Rod?
8 R, 2 HR, 5 RBI, .258 BA

Yet we constantly see how bad A-Rod choked and see absolutley nothing negative about Jeter. :-?

From a personality standpoint, even I like Jeter more than A-Rod, but I'm not going to let it cloud my judgement.


We get it. Jeter sucked in the ALCS.

Jeter hasnt sucked in the playoffs before, and A-Rod (given in only a coulple season in the playoffs) has not had that huge moment.


How wrong you are.

1996 World Series: .250 BA
1998 ALDS: .111 BA
1998 ALCS: .200 BA
2000 ALDS: .211 BA
2001 ALCS: .118 BA
2001 World Series: .148 BA
2003 ALCS: .233 BA


Where are the rest of the playoff series you neglected to post stats from?
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Postby BronXBombers51 » Tue May 23, 2006 4:35 pm

MMoNeY24 wrote:
BronXBombers51 wrote:
cordscords wrote:
josebach wrote:What did Jeter do in the 2004 ALCS?
6 R, 0 HR, 4 RBI .200 BA

A-Rod?
8 R, 2 HR, 5 RBI, .258 BA

Yet we constantly see how bad A-Rod choked and see absolutley nothing negative about Jeter. :-?

From a personality standpoint, even I like Jeter more than A-Rod, but I'm not going to let it cloud my judgement.


We get it. Jeter sucked in the ALCS.

Jeter hasnt sucked in the playoffs before, and A-Rod (given in only a coulple season in the playoffs) has not had that huge moment.


How wrong you are.

1996 World Series: .250 BA
1998 ALDS: .111 BA
1998 ALCS: .200 BA
2000 ALDS: .211 BA
2001 ALCS: .118 BA
2001 World Series: .148 BA
2003 ALCS: .233 BA


Where are the rest of the playoff series you neglected to post stats from?


He did well in those series. I was posting the series that he didn't do well in, since cordscords said he had never sucked in the playoffs before. He has. He's had his ups and downs, just like anyone else. That's why his career postseason numbers are right in line with his career regular season numbers. He's not any better in the postseason. He plays the same.
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Postby MMoNeY24 » Tue May 23, 2006 4:41 pm

BronXBombers51 wrote:
MMoNeY24 wrote:
BronXBombers51 wrote:
cordscords wrote:
josebach wrote:What did Jeter do in the 2004 ALCS?
6 R, 0 HR, 4 RBI .200 BA

A-Rod?
8 R, 2 HR, 5 RBI, .258 BA

Yet we constantly see how bad A-Rod choked and see absolutley nothing negative about Jeter. :-?

From a personality standpoint, even I like Jeter more than A-Rod, but I'm not going to let it cloud my judgement.


We get it. Jeter sucked in the ALCS.

Jeter hasnt sucked in the playoffs before, and A-Rod (given in only a coulple season in the playoffs) has not had that huge moment.


How wrong you are.

1996 World Series: .250 BA
1998 ALDS: .111 BA
1998 ALCS: .200 BA
2000 ALDS: .211 BA
2001 ALCS: .118 BA
2001 World Series: .148 BA
2003 ALCS: .233 BA


Where are the rest of the playoff series you neglected to post stats from?


He did well in those series. I was posting the series that he didn't do well in, since cordscords said he had never sucked in the playoffs before. He has. He's had his ups and downs, just like anyone else. That's why his career postseason numbers are right in line with his career regular season numbers. He's not any better in the postseason. He plays the same.


With what you said before though about Yankee fans wanting Jeter over some of those players you listed, I don't think it's that ridiculous. Over the years Jeter's had huge moments as a Yankee and I don't think stats are needed to argue against him being the guy you want up. Ofcourse he's had some bad series because he's human, but he's had enough memorable moments for Yankee fans to want him up.
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Postby BronXBombers51 » Tue May 23, 2006 4:49 pm

MMoNeY24 wrote:With what you said before though about Yankee fans wanting Jeter over some of those players you listed, I don't think it's that ridiculous. Over the years Jeter's had huge moments as a Yankee and I don't think stats are needed to argue against him being the guy you want up. Ofcourse he's had some bad series because he's human, but he's had enough memorable moments for Yankee fans to want him up.


Jeter has the memorable moments because he's had the opportunites to make those moments happen. Look at his career. He's never missed the postseason. He plays for the greatest franchise in sports, on the biggest stage in the world. He is the captain of the team. Jeter has the spotlight.

Jeter is bound to have memorable moments based on how many big games he's played in. He's a great player. He made great plays. That's what he does. He doesn't 'step up his game' for the playoffs. He plays just as well as he always does. When you get as many opportunites in the spotlight as Jeter has had, you're going to make great plays. That's what great players do.
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Postby josebach » Tue May 23, 2006 5:27 pm

Win championship. A-Rod good.

Until then. A-Rod bad.

That about sum up the typical Yankee fan mentality?


I really hope the Yankees will be happy with whoever they get to replace A-Rod when they run him out of town.
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