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Will Wood ever win more than 13?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 3:59 pm
by mrecktid
AHHHH I REALLY NEED SOME WINS FROM HIM!!!! He's been throwing good lately (9 k's) but the walks have cost him. This sucks!

-Mark

PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 4:15 pm
by Super GM
Don't worry about him. He is the last pitcher I would worry about. He'll figure it out and start picking up W's again.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 4:19 pm
by The Jury
Yes he will, but to me he's highly overrated because of the strikeouts. Him and Mike Mussina. Those dudes are overrated, in fantasy I guess they're tier 2 pitchers in the group just under the Schilling, Randys, and Pedros of the world, but in real life it's earned runs that count and Wood and Mussina annually spot up ERA of 3.50, which is "good" I guess but they're highly overrated.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 10:11 pm
by HOOTIE
The Jury wrote:Yes he will, but to me he's highly overrated because of the strikeouts. Him and Mike Mussina. Those dudes are overrated, in fantasy I guess they're tier 2 pitchers in the group just under the Schilling, Randys, and Pedros of the world, but in real life it's earned runs that count and Wood and Mussina annually spot up ERA of 3.50, which is "good" I guess but they're highly overrated.


Hard to call a guy with a 641 win % overrated. I actually think Moose is underrated, because he doesnt get the big strikeout headlines. Compare career era+.

Mussinas 129 actually beats Schillings 127. Yea Mussinas career era is 3.54, but the league average was 4.57. Not alot of guys post career eras over 1 run lower then league. Just to throw some names around, Moose beats Ryans 112, Gibsons 127, in era+.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 10:17 pm
by The Jury
Schilling eats more innings (about 250/year) compared to Mussina's 225. Schilling is also in elite company as very fwe pitchers can whiff 300+ in one year in the modern era, I can only think of Schill and RJ with Wood topping out around 250. Schilling isn't the greatest ERA pitcher either, but his WHIP is outstanding and his control is even better than Moose's. Plus remember the 300+ Ks.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 10:40 pm
by HOOTIE
The Jury wrote:Schilling eats more innings (about 250/year) compared to Mussina's 225. Schilling is also in elite company as very fwe pitchers can whiff 300+ in one year in the modern era, I can only think of Schill and RJ with Wood topping out around 250. Schilling isn't the greatest ERA pitcher either, but his WHIP is outstanding and his control is even better than Moose's. Plus remember the 300+ Ks.


Didnt you say earlier Woods strikeouts are overrated? But now Schillings arent? Certaintly Curt has been a current top 3 fantasy sp, but look at it this way. Curt at Woods age was a struggling kid. Wood is way ahead of Curt using age comparision.

As far as whips, Curt is at 1.12, Moose 1.17. Remember, Curt has spent most of career in dh less lower scoring nl league.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 10:44 pm
by The Jury
I didn't say that Woods strikeouts are overrated, I said that Wood is overrated because his strikeouts stand out and help people forget that he gives up a lot of runs and walks.

Remember, Curt has spent most of career in dh less lower scoring nl league.


That means he's had to face Michael Hampton, which even it out. ;-)

You don't agree that Mussina, Wood, Mulder, Hudson, Halladay, etc. are a notch below the ELITES of Pedro, Schilling, and Randy in a regular year?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 11:42 pm
by HOOTIE
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You don't agree that Mussina, Wood, Mulder, Hudson, Halladay, etc. are a notch below the ELITES of Pedro, Schilling, and Randy in a regular year?[/quote]

Everyones below Pedro and RJ, both who are top 15 all time. The debate that was started, was Wood and Mussina are overrated. It wasnt a Mussina Pedro like comparision. Fantasy wise Curts ks make him better then Mussina sure. However, in real life, Muusinas career win %, era+, both beat Schillings. I think Mussina has a better shot at hof, then Schilling does.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 12:18 pm
by m. shark
He'll put up the wins as soon as the Cubbies dump him to Atlanta. :-[