thanks again. the thing with donnelly is, that I can play baez at sp. so he really isn;t a problem, he is jsut helping keep down era, whip and giving me good k output at little cost. one team has rivera, izzy, foulke and smoltz. (second place) another team has mantei, gagne, borowski and williamson. (first place). another owner has wagner, and lincoln and marte, so he thinks he has a real bullpen and won't trade wagner. he is behind me by ten saves, so I figured it was worth it to take the gamble on gordon, as my gain is also directly his loss, same with lincoln. Kolb and mears and franco and some others are ont he wire as well. but with this squad, I already have four out of eleven points, closing in on the fifth, (only one save behind, and all that guy has is biddle). Two behind the enxt guy after that, then it is a jump of eleven, a couple of teams, then the top three teams are thirty saves ahead, and they have stacked pens. I wonder if it is worth trading froma major stregth, (where I could probably get eelevn out of eleven in four categories for a gain of eigth points, then gamble on my big three putting me n contention for era, whip, k's and wins. I am only nine wins off the elad there and four wins away from gaining two points. and 130k's off the lead. thoughts?