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Postby Trot Nixon » Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:10 am

Heard about him for the past 2 years...got hurt last year in a bar fight, might pick him up just to take a flyer on him
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Postby thehat » Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:09 am

Yoda wrote:
Ender wrote:The majority of leagues are not keeper leagues and there is no point to keeping the #1 waiver pick in most leagues.


Fair enough. So I guess using a #1 pick in 2005 for Felix wasn't worth it for their owners either huh?


Definitely not. No argung that King Felix was superb once he arrived. Sub-3 ERA, 1.00 WHIP, great K's to IP. Unlucky to only get four wins.

Nevertheless, anyone who sat on the #1 waiver claim most of the year waiting on him made a bad move if it was in a redraft league where there were decent quality guys on the wire previously. I'd rather get a guy from May through September than just he last two months myself.

As for Hamels, tremendous prospect but not worthy of waiting on with a #1 claim.

And as for Kendrick, he's a dynamic prospect in one category (BA) but I think he's being wildly overhyped. Limited power and he will not be a prolific big league SB guy.
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Postby bluejkrew » Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:02 am

Don't ever use a #1 waiver on a prospect hitter called-up from the minors. Most of them will have to go thorugh an adjustment period in the big leagues. However, a pitcher is a different story (ONLY if his hype is worth it, e.g. Prior, Felix) since its more likely that major league hitters have to adjust to him.
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Postby Yoda » Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:41 am

Ender wrote:I was in 5 leagues last year and not a single one was won by the person who took felix. Holding your waiver has its own built in disadvantages that almost universally offsets the player you end up getting with the waiver. In a keeper league I can see it, in a normal league it simply is not worth it.


Not sure what kind of leagues you play in but in my leagues, you don't see too much on waivers. If you are in a competitive league, teams tend to be more patient and they don't make stupid moves.

Just because you picked up Felix in 05 doesn't mean you won. But I guarantee you that he helped his owners to go up in standings based on how he pitched. I can't imagine using a #1 waiver pick on Felix hurt anyone.
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Postby stikmata » Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:55 am

garf112 wrote: They have scored 57 runs (with only 48 RBIs, which I thought was odd).


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Postby Music2004Man » Sat Apr 29, 2006 4:08 pm

bluejkrew wrote:Don't ever use a #1 waiver on a prospect hitter called-up from the minors. Most of them will have to go thorugh an adjustment period in the big leagues. However, a pitcher is a different story (ONLY if his hype is worth it, e.g. Prior, Felix) since its more likely that major league hitters have to adjust to him.


I think your thoughts here are interesting but I would rather hold my #1 priority for a hitter over a pitcher. My thought is that a highly ranked prospect aka Delmon Young (if he can stop throwing bats at umps) sorry, low blow, BJ Upton, Jeremy Hermida, Prince Fielder will need less time to adjust then the top prospect pitchers Felix, Duke, Liriano, Verlander. What do you guys think about this?
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Postby Diamond Miners » Sat Apr 29, 2006 11:24 pm

I just used mine on M.Giles, even though I have Weeks at 2B. But yeah I'll keep an eye out
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Postby MadMobius » Tue May 02, 2006 2:57 am

Consider picking up Rich Hill for the Cubs. He starts on Thurs v. Ari and his 4 games with the AAA Iowa Cubs is this:

1-0, 1.44 era, 0.80 whip (13hits+7bb in 25ip), 33 k's in 25 ip (11.88 k/9)

and he should already be available (no waiver priority issues)...

I apologize ahead of time if he blows up...
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Postby Ender » Tue May 02, 2006 8:35 am

Yoda wrote:
Ender wrote:I was in 5 leagues last year and not a single one was won by the person who took felix. Holding your waiver has its own built in disadvantages that almost universally offsets the player you end up getting with the waiver. In a keeper league I can see it, in a normal league it simply is not worth it.


Not sure what kind of leagues you play in but in my leagues, you don't see too much on waivers. If you are in a competitive league, teams tend to be more patient and they don't make stupid moves.

Just because you picked up Felix in 05 doesn't mean you won. But I guarantee you that he helped his owners to go up in standings based on how he pitched. I can't imagine using a #1 waiver pick on Felix hurt anyone.


I play in deep roster leagues where you don't just have a team full of all-stars and someone dropping a player like Gary Mathews JR could be a big payday for me as a 5th OF.
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Postby PlayingWithFire » Tue May 02, 2006 9:14 am

here is a better reason: Howie Kendrick is up ;-D
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