ukrneal wrote:George_Foreman wrote:A couple of things:
First off, I'm not even talking about them relative to fantasy (at least not necessarily). I'm just saying that Ws have become a near-worthless stat when it comes to assessing the value of a starting pitcher, which is pretty much what they were designed to do.
This is what I disagree with. I think they are reasonably decent inidcator in most cases, even on their own (although I would never look at this one number to determine a picher's worth).
Indicator of what?? What does Oscar Villareal's 3 Ws indicate to you? What did his W from last night indicate? That he blew a lead in the 7th but Marcus Giles hit a home run in the bottom half? 'Cause that's why he got it.
There is certainly some correlation between Ws and how well a pitcher pitches, but for SPs, run support is probably just as big of a factor, and for relievers? Well, it's almost completely arbitrary.