George_Foreman wrote:A couple of things:
First off, I'm not even talking about them relative to fantasy (at least not necessarily). I'm just saying that Ws have become a near-worthless stat when it comes to assessing the value of a starting pitcher, which is pretty much what they were designed to do.
This is what I disagree with. I think they are reasonably decent inidcator in most cases, even on their own (although I would never look at this one number to determine a picher's worth).
I agree you cannot go too far with this. I'm sure you could find pitchers in history that are outside the norm. But my guess is that wins will allow you to loosely group pitcher who did great, pretty good, fair, pretty poor, and awful.
I don't know the history of the 'win' stat, but I never considered it to be designed to assess the value of a starting pitcher. In any case, it's one of many stats that should be looked at when evaluating a pitcher.