warrick95 wrote:The danger that y'all aren't seeing here is that y'all are expecting him to basically fulfill his potential (because he is not going to become much more than a 20-20 player) in his first full season. That's a lot to ask; I am not going to lie.
You do know that we're comparing numbers of a 24 year old Granderson, who had completed college, with a 22 year old Patterson. Duh, Corey's got some of the worst strike zone judgment and hitting ability that you'll ever see. However, given his enormous power/speed abilities (which blows Granderson's tools in this respective categories out of the water) and his big league experience (despite it being pretty bad for the most part), I'd rather take a risk on Patterson. I posted just the K/BB to simplify the situation. I didn't feel like typing all the stuff I just did.
It's not about what tools you have. It's about what you do with them.
warrick95 wrote:I'm not underestimating his power because he simply doesn't have that much. His bat's probably his best tool and even that's not that great. All-around good player, though. You're throwing out numbers in rookie ball and A+ ball, but you have to remember that this is a drafted college player we're talking about. Considering the fact that a. they are just about done filling out and b. are more mature physically and in hitting, college players sure as hell better rip the lower levels up. If you notice a consistent trend, most good college players thrive in OBP and power in the lower levels.
A guy who has an IsoP over .200 at age 24 in AAA and MLB doesn't have much power? That's simply nonsense.
I don't care if it's a drafted kindergartener. Stop listening to the scouts and start looking at the facts.
warrick95 wrote:Crunch numbers all y'all want, but the scouts are generally at a consensus that despite the numbers, his upside is probably at the 20/20 or so level, as his tools are just about average to slightly above average across the board. To expect him to not have growing pains at all is preposterous. The jump from AAA to a full season in the MLB is much more considerable than y'all think.
Every jump, he's improved. I'll take that bet. Far more over a guy who has over 2,000 MLB at bats, a career OBP under .295 and an OPS+ almost 20 percent below league average.
The difference between Patterson and Granderson? Granderson, listens, learns, and gets better. Patterson doesn't.
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