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BB51 Rankings: New Version: C/OF

Postby BronXBombers51 » Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:27 pm

Catchers and outfielders this time...

Catchers:
Tier 1:
-Victor Martinez

Tier 2:
-Joe Mauer
-Jason Varitek

Tier 3:
-Javy Lopez
-Jorge Posada

Tier 4:
-Michael Barrett
-Bengie Molina
-Ramon Hernandez
-A.J. Pierzynski
-Ivan Rodriguez

Tier 5:
-Kenji Johjima
-Brian McCann
-Paul Lo Duca
-Jason Kendall
-Mike Piazza

Tier 6:
-Josh Willingham
-Rod Barajas
-Ryan Doumit
-Johnny Estrada
-Toby Hall
-Javier Valentin
-Yadier Molina
-Dioner Navarro

Tier 7:
-Mike Lieberthal
-Yorvit Torrealba
-John Buck
-Damian Miller
-Brian Schneider
-Jose Molina
-Jason LaRue
-Brad Ausmus


Outfielders:
Tier 1:
-Vladimir Guerrero
-Manny Ramirez

Tier 2:
-Miguel Cabrera
-Jason Bay
-Bobby Abreu
-Carl Crawford
-Gary Sheffield

Tier 3:
-Lance Berkman
-Ichiro Suzuki
-Carlos Beltran
-Barry Bonds
-Andruw Jones
-Hideki Matsui
-Adam Dunn
-Chone Figgins

Tier 4:
-Carlos Lee
-Grady Sizemore
-Juan Pierre
-Johnny Damon
-Pat Burrell
-Scott Podsednik
-Vernon Wells

Tier 5:
-Jim Edmonds
-Ken Griffey Jr.
-Matt Holliday
-Randy Winn
-Aubrey Huff
-Cliff Floyd
-J.D. Drew
-Chad Tracy
-Willy Taveras
-Brian Giles
-Magglio Ordonez
-Torii Hunter
-Wily Mo Pena
-Jermaine Dye
-Brad Wilkerson
-Preston Wilson
-Garret Anderson
-Moises Alou

Tier 6:
-Jeremy Hermida
-Geoff Jenkins
-Jeff Francouer
-Coco Crisp
-Jose Guillen
-Jonny Gomes
-Dimitri Young
-Rocco Baldelli
-Ryan Freel
-Aaron Rowand
-Milton Bradley
-Shawn Green
-Jay Gibbons
-Raul Ibanez
-Jason Lane
-Kevin Mench
-Emil Brown
-Reggie Sanders
-Craig Monroe
-Luis Gonzalez

Tier 7:
-Rondell White
-David DeJesus
-David Dellucci
-Corey Patterson
-Joey Gathright
-Shannon Stewart
-Jeromy Burnitz
-Mark Kotsay
-Juan Encarnacion
-Nick Swisher
-Jacque Jones
-Curtis Granderson
-Austin Kearns
-Pedro Feliz
-Richard Hidalgo
-Matt Murton
-Trot Nixon
-Steve Finley
-Jay Payton
-Lew Ford
-Dave Roberts
-Alex Rios
-Juan Rivera

Tier 8:
-Craig Wilson
-Kenny Lofton
-Mike Cameron
-Brad Hawpe
-Brady Clark
-Brian Anderson
-Jason Michaels
-Eric Byrnes
-Cory Sullivan
-Jeremy Reed
-Frank Catalanotto
-Casey Blake
-Ryan Church
-Matt Lawton
-Bernie Williams
-Larry Bigbie
-Ryan Klesko
-Reed Johnson
-Bobby Kielty
-Terrence Long
-Ryan Langerhans
-Sammy Sosa
-Gary Matthews Jr.
-Jorge Piedra
-Victor Diaz
-Jose Cruz Jr.
-So Taguchi
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Postby AcidRock23 » Sun Feb 19, 2006 2:15 pm

For C, I'd like Vmart and Mauer but Mauer gets a ?mark and I'm not taking him. Too much injury risk for my tastes. I guess all it takes is one Ray Fosse play and any C could go down but catching and knee injuries scare me. More than Vmarts ankles...

The second tier think Barrett (*cough, cough* homer pick *cough*)is going to overtake Posada and Lopez this year. He's peaking, gets a nice reception from the fans and is a smart C who will be improving his plate discipline. Forecaster noted his ability to hit lefties increasing as well so there's some additional upside potential. So Barrett, Posada/ Lopez (who I don't see much difference in #s...), Pierzynski, BMolina & iRod would be my second tier in that order. After that, I'd have to take Ramon Hernandez and he may do ok if Lopez moves to first and he doesn't get hurt. I'm not a big fan of investing in C though and would be content w/ a scrub.

OF after lunch although MrsAcidRock has been eyeing the computer so I may have to let her play for a while...
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Postby CircleMeBert » Sun Feb 19, 2006 2:31 pm

People need to stop worrying about Mauer. He's never had injury problems before, and he was basically babied with his knee injury last year. They didn't want anything bad to happen to the future of their franchise. I honestly wouldn't worry about him that much.
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Postby daullaz » Sun Feb 19, 2006 3:19 pm

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I'd flip Pudge with McCann. I'd also flip Willingham and Barajas with Kendall and LoDuca. All three of the guys I'd move down are getting by on their names at this point, and the three guys I'd move up are underrated. I'd like to see Lieberthal in Tier 6, as he should have one more year left in his bat.
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Postby BronXBombers51 » Sun Feb 19, 2006 11:16 pm

Any opinions on the OF rankings?
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Postby Ender » Sun Feb 19, 2006 11:28 pm

Move Carlos Lee up 1 tier. He won't repeat last years RBI totals most likely but his average should rebound some and with 30+ HR and 15+ SB skills he's gotta be around as valuable as Matsui will be. Especially if Matsui ends up batting 6th this year. By my calculations he's been as valuable or more valuable than Matsui each of the past 3 years now and they are the same age.
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Postby daullaz » Mon Feb 20, 2006 12:02 am

BronXBombers51 wrote:Any opinions on the OF rankings?


I'd flip Pierre and Scotty Pods with Matt Holliday and Jim Edmonds.

I'd also flip Tavares and Hermida.

I'd take Lew Ford out and insert Jason Kubel in his place.

I'd bump Cameron, Michaels and B.Anderson up a tier into seven. If not all of them, at least Cameron for sure.
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Postby Cooner » Mon Feb 20, 2006 2:23 pm

the obvious one to me is Griffey too high, I'd bump him down a tier. I also wouldn't be surprised to see Damon perform at bottom of Tier 3 level, though I agree with your putting him in Tier 4.
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