mikegp wrote:Yoda wrote:mikegp wrote:hybrid wrote:edit: Oops, thought you were talking about his last year in 2005.
Anyways there is more to it then just saying his HR's and OPS. The guy was 25 beating up on mostly guys who can't cut it in the majors and has always been old for his league in the minors. I agree he has power, but due to his bad plate dicsipline and that he hasn't shown he can hit lefties, I think he is being over hyped.
Agreed. He only had 61AB against lefties in 2005. Projected over a full season he will probably have roughly 140-150AB against lefties. A .148avg, .175OBP, .246SLG, .421OPS is not going to cut it. I realize it was his first full season in the majors, but that line is just horrible. Howard does have power, but he strikes out way too much to ever be close to a .300 hitter. He's a good prospect/player, but he is overhyped. Also, I agree with Hybrid on his age relative to the league. He's a lot more physically developed than most hitters in the minors which is why his stats seem so impressive.
EDIT: Just for fun Adam Dunn's last year in AAA at age 21 in 55 games post a line of .329/.441/.676/.1117
Adam Dunn's 5 year major league average:
Minor League BA,OBP,SLG, and OPS does not always transfer to the major league level
Isn't it kind of silly to say that he can't hit lefties based on one half season in MLB? While it is true that he will surely struggle against southpaws, does that mean he absolutely won't improve?
Comparing Adam Dunn with Howard is ridiculous. And everyone knows minor league numbers don't always translate to the MLB level. His half season in 2005 was very impressive and right in line with what he was doing in the minors.
I wasn't really comparing him with Adam Dunn, I was just pointing out that stats don't always translate from minors to majors. It's not silly to say he can't hit lefties based on one half a season because he did struggle. I don't think his average will be above .280 because his OBP and OPS just don't support that(but I could be wrong). He hardly walks and he strikes out a TON. Factor that in with his age and his chances of living up to all this hype really aren't that good.
His OBP and OPS don't support a .280 BA? He's posted .900+ OPS at every level in last two years. I'd like to hear your explanation:
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/ ... ward.shtml
Also, aside from his first go around in the bigs, he's hit .280 or above in his pro career.