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Postby Pokey » Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:51 pm

I was wondering if you guys could tell me about good scoring systems for points-based leagues you've used in the past.
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Postby ThatDude » Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:56 pm

Ive always liked the point scoring Sandbox uses. 162 game limit for all position players and SP, 140 game limit for RP


For hitters:

R (1), H (1), 2B (1), 3B (2), HR (3), RBI (1), SH (1), SF (1), SB (2), CS (-2), BB (1), HBP (1), K (-1), GIDP (-1), E (-1), Cycle (5)



For pitchers:

W (10), L (-5), CG (5), SHO (10), No Hitter (20), Perfect Game (30), SV (10), BS (-5), OUT (1), H (-1), ER (-1), BB (-1), K (1), WP (-1), Balk (-1)
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Postby Pokey » Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:22 pm

thanks ThatDude, anyone else have systems they like?
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Postby SaintsOfTheDiamond » Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:26 pm

I know JT/Sluggers is really into points leagues. I'm sure he'll have some good pointers for ya. ;-D
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Postby djacks » Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:33 pm

ThatDude wrote:Ive always liked the point scoring Sandbox uses. 162 game limit for all position players and SP, 140 game limit for RP


For hitters:

R (1), H (1), 2B (1), 3B (2), HR (3), RBI (1), SH (1), SF (1), SB (2), CS (-2), BB (1), HBP (1), K (-1), GIDP (-1), E (-1), Cycle (5)



For pitchers:

W (10), L (-5), CG (5), SHO (10), No Hitter (20), Perfect Game (30), SV (10), BS (-5), OUT (1), H (-1), ER (-1), BB (-1), K (1), WP (-1), Balk (-1)


I hate it when saves are equal to wins...makes closers too valuable IMO.

The leagues I play in are pretty basic:

single = 1pt
double = 2pts
triple = 3pts
HR = 3 or 4pts (i have one league of each)
run = 1pt
rbi = 1pt
SB = 2pts

Win = 6pts
loss = -3pts
saves = 3pts
ER = -1pt
K = 1pt
CG = 4pts
SO = 6pts
PG = 10pts
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Postby ThatDude » Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:40 pm

djacks wrote:
ThatDude wrote:Ive always liked the point scoring Sandbox uses. 162 game limit for all position players and SP, 140 game limit for RP


For hitters:

R (1), H (1), 2B (1), 3B (2), HR (3), RBI (1), SH (1), SF (1), SB (2), CS (-2), BB (1), HBP (1), K (-1), GIDP (-1), E (-1), Cycle (5)



For pitchers:

W (10), L (-5), CG (5), SHO (10), No Hitter (20), Perfect Game (30), SV (10), BS (-5), OUT (1), H (-1), ER (-1), BB (-1), K (1), WP (-1), Balk (-1)


I hate it when saves are equal to wins...makes closers too valuable IMO.



It balances out since pitchers get 1 point for every out they get, and theres less games allowed at RP in our system.

200 IP out of a starter versus 70 IP out of a closer is 130 point difference, which is pretty sizeable.
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Postby djacks » Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:41 pm

ThatDude wrote:
djacks wrote:
ThatDude wrote:Ive always liked the point scoring Sandbox uses. 162 game limit for all position players and SP, 140 game limit for RP


For hitters:

R (1), H (1), 2B (1), 3B (2), HR (3), RBI (1), SH (1), SF (1), SB (2), CS (-2), BB (1), HBP (1), K (-1), GIDP (-1), E (-1), Cycle (5)



For pitchers:

W (10), L (-5), CG (5), SHO (10), No Hitter (20), Perfect Game (30), SV (10), BS (-5), OUT (1), H (-1), ER (-1), BB (-1), K (1), WP (-1), Balk (-1)


I hate it when saves are equal to wins...makes closers too valuable IMO.



It balances out since pitchers getting 1 point for every out they get, and theres less games allowed at RP in our system.

200 IP out of a starter versus 70 IP out of a closer is 130 point difference, which is pretty sizeable.


Didn't notice the point for outs... :-B ...makes more sense now... ;-D
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Postby JTWood » Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:05 am

I have come to the realization that there is no such thing as a scoring system that will work for every league. All point scoring systems need to be tailor-made based on the most essential league variables, like number and types of starters and ratio of starting hitters to pitchers.

One thing is for certain, though: If you want to have a successful points league, your scoring system must be balanced between hitting and pitching. If it's not, then the scoring system will dictate strategy, and all will be lost for your league.
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Postby ThatDude » Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:35 am

JTWood wrote:I have come to the realization that there is no such thing as a scoring system that will work for every league. All point scoring systems need to be tailor-made based on the most essential league variables, like number and types of starters and ratio of starting hitters to pitchers.

One thing is for certain, though: If you want to have a successful points league, your scoring system must be balanced between hitting and pitching. If it's not, then the scoring system will dictate strategy, and all will be lost for your league.


This is completely true.

Since I left it out of my first post, heres the rundown of our starting positions:

C, 1B, 2B, SS, 3B, Util IF, OF, OF, OF, OF

SP, SP, SP, SP, SP, RP, RP


I dont really think the number of Bench or DL spots matters much, but we have 8 total Bench spots and 2 DL spots
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