phillibuster wrote:I don't know how you can call it a meaningless stat, when it has more to do with how a pitcher performs than a W.
As I stated earlier, if a batter hits a homerun with 3 rbi's in a game and the team loses the game, the player is awarded those stats. But if a pitcher performs well and the team loses, he is not awarded a statistic for performing well.
The W is a flawed statistic as far as a pitcher is concerned, face it.
If I have Pedro and the Mets lead 4-1 going into the 9th, Looper blows the save, Marlins win 5-4. He would be awarded a QS, Pedro had nothing to do with Looper blowing the save, the stat was stripped from him. The team lost Pedro his individual performance victory, it's not fair to fantasy players to have to deal with a team driven statistic such as a win.
And when MLB and the MLBPA change the Ws to QSs you might have a point. Until then, you are aguing that stats in existence and used for over a hundred years should be changed because you can't play fantasy as well with them or think that someone should be credited with something even though they LOST or did not finish what they started and someone else blew it for them after the starter ran out of gas.
As a fan, I really do not care if my pitcher wins 5-4 or 2-1. I care about my team winning. Bottom line is that it is a team game and pitchers are measured to a degree on how well they do for the team. You want to look at individual performance you can look at ERA or WHIP. Ws is a team element to a degree just as rbis and runs are for hitters. It works on both sides and NO one is paying a pitcher who is 11-15 with a 3.7 ERA big bucks just becuase he has a lot of Quality Starts (this years free agent market not withstanding).