Webster11 wrote: Madison wrote:
Webster11 wrote:(and i don't see how speaking spanish makes it any more likely than if two kids were talking in private in a hallway)
And yet again, that was never said, but that's what everyone has become stuck on.
Wrveres's sheep thoughts keep coming to mind each time a person jumps on this bandwagon about something that was never said........
While you never said that directly, you do imply that students speaking in a different language pose a greater threat than everyday occurences in high school such as two students talking in private. That is unless you also think students shouldn't be allowed to talk in private without a teacher present.
Madison wrote:I see it as two kids speaking in a language the teachers don't understand, which is a security risk, since teachers cannot be expected to speak and understand every language on the planet.
Either you think speaking in a different language is a greater threat than two students speaking in private, or you think that they are both equally as dangerous and should both either be allowed or dissalowed. Which is it?
Imply? You must not read many of my posts.
I don't beat around the bush, I say exactly what I mean, and things are worded the way I want them worded. If I thought they posed a significant security risk, I'd have said so.
Anyway, to continue with something that's being blown way out of proportion that was never said (and still ignoring the other issues like costs involved, common courtesy, etc) the difference is the difficulty level. Two kids can be sitting in class, standing in the hall, on the playground, etc, speaking Italian or whatever with smiles on their faces, and discuss anything they want.
Much harder for two kids to sneak away and discuss something they don't want anyone else to hear. Oh, and last time I checked, two students sneaking off together usually resulted in a trip to the principal's office.
I really did expect some interesting discussion about this whole thing, but with everyone stuck on something that wasn't said, it's grown quite boring. Ah well.
Pedantic wrote:It's nice to say that Spanish-speaking people should know English, but we turn our backs when it comes to actually making it happen.
Really? We've got all kinds of programs (free programs!) here in Fort Worth that teach both reading and speaking English. I probably get a paper every two weeks written in both English and Spanish with the details of when and where to go for the free classes that anyone is welcome to attend.
Pedantic wrote:Schools have to be equipped to teach people. Spanish-speaking people are no different. If they can't learn English at school, where can they learn it?
What Rugby is saying (and please correct me if I'm wrong, but it's how I feel too) is that we quit teaching in Spanish. You drop a kid into school that only speaks Spanish, where only English is spoken, and that kid will learn English quite quickly. There are Spanish classes in High School that only teach Spanish class in Spanish, and those kids learn Spanish quite quickly. Why can't it work with English?
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