wrveres wrote:Not to hi-jack but ...
Kevin Brown was good before he went to New York.
Carl Pavono was good until he went to New York.
Jared Wright had a solid season before he went to New York
Randy Johnson was a pitching God before he went to New York
Jeff Weaver was good before he went to New York
Javier Vasquez was good before he went to New York ..
I could go on and on, but you get the idea.
Why do you think that is?
I agree with you to an extent. Brown was good before he went to New York, but he was hardly an elite pitcher. He was a massive injury risk and his attitude problems were well-known (a problem that directly affected his time in New York when he punched a wall.) He actually didn't have a terrible 2004 though.
Lots of people were skeptical on Pavano. There was alot of risk with him...he had only one good year under his belt and was an injury risk as well. He also only pitched half a season, so who knows.
Everyone hated the Wright signing and for good reason. Just a very bad move.
Randy, Vazzy and Weaver are the three big enigmas. However, Randy and Vazzy didn't get a whole lot of time in New York. They each only got one season. Vazquez pitched well for half of that season, but fell apart afterwards. Randy was on and off for his first season, much like Roger Clemens in 1999. Clemens went on to pitch very well for them after that season.
Maybe it just takes time to get used to New York, as was the case with Clemens, A-Rod, etc. They did pull the plug rather quickly on Vazquez. Maybe he could have improved with another year in NY. The Yankees don't have patience though, so we'll never know.
The other explanation would be coaching. That might explain the constant mechanical problems with RJ, and why they could never get Contreras to be the pitcher he is today.
I don't really know.