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nuggets wrote:The_Met_Threat wrote: I mean the 13 sb really shouldn't matter over the season, especially when you can pick that up off hte waiver wire. 32 HR 95 Runs and 108 RBI is some nice second round numbers. I mean those are practically Carlos Lee numbers. Why the sudden drop off for Lee in avg. I am guessing is just change of pitchers but i would likely not even pay a 3rd for Lee (Vlads numbers this year were practically identical to Lee's last year). Ortiz on the other hand is practically a lock for 40+ hr and 125+rbi. Of course depending on Manny or not, but im sure Manny will be traded before people are starting their drafts, if he does get traded... I think you can also rely on 110+ runs and a .300 avg. and .300 is helping that category.
I think you just have to put Ortiz in the top 3.
Wow you are really picking Vlade apart here. I don't understand how you can say he practically has Carlos Lee numbers. I believe what makes Vlade so valuable is that he can bring the entire package. Those 32 HR 95 Runs and 108 RBI were tied to a .317 AVG, not .265. Vlade '05 = Carlos Lee '04 ? Vlade was the 11th best fantasy hitter in standard leagues. Lee was the 23rd most valuable hitter in '04. This does not compute. If what you mean is that Carlos Lee in his prime is as good as Vlade after his shoulder has nearly been ripped off his body, then I'm with you. I expect Vlade to be no worse than a top seven hitter, while Lee could go 80 runs, 25 HR, 90 RBI and .260 AVG easily.
Ortiz without Manny is not the same player and a poor risk at #3 if with out him, IMO.
OhMrScottyTrav06 wrote:Vlad by a long shot... he will hit 40+ hr next season and drive in 125 runs along with 15 steals, 110 runs, .340 AVG... don't tell me you're gonna pass on that for Ortiz when Damon and Manny leave?
Vlad can also hit from his nose to his toes, can't pitch around him
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