The_Met_Threat wrote:I agree Vlad is great, but noone has talked about his season. It definately was not top 3 material. I mean the 13 sb really shouldn't matter over the season, especially when you can pick that up off hte waiver wire. 32 HR 95 Runs and 108 RBI is some nice second round numbers. I mean those are practically Carlos Lee numbers. Why the sudden drop off for Lee in avg. I am guessing is just change of pitchers but i would likely not even pay a 3rd for Lee (Vlads numbers this year were practically identical to Lee's last year). Ortiz on the other hand is practically a lock for 40+ hr and 125+rbi. Of course depending on Manny or not, but im sure Manny will be traded before people are starting their drafts, if he does get traded... I think you can also rely on 110+ runs and a .300 avg. and .300 is helping that category.
I think you just have to put Ortiz in the top 3.
A fifty or so point differential in average is fairly significant, don't you think (Lee vs. Vlad this year)?
Many people went into this season having trouble buying Carlos Lee because of his future batting average numbers. His last two seasons WERE .291 and .305, but he was a ~.260s hitter before that. Plus, he's leaving a great hitters' park, although Miller isn't bad itself, and was going to be surrounded by an inferior lineup. But the key for me was that I just didn't trust him. He's certainly not on the level of hitters as Vlad is.
It would still be A-Rod, Pujols, Vlad. Vlad definitely had a little bit of a down year this season and will get his average back near .330 next season. In addition, I really do think that average is a harder position to make up ground (in Roto 5X5's) than cumulative stats such as home runs (stolen bases are tough, however). I, too, have Ortiz in the Cabrera, Teixeira class. I want to see just what his ceiling is...Vlad however, is already there for certain.