WharfRat wrote:Kudos to the Giambino. Yeah, he's a cheat. But he's owned up to it and taken it like a man, and as far as we know he is a cheater no more. Does the award stipulate from where you have to come back? Nope. He was down as low as it gets, having done it to himself, and he came a long way from his self-induced hell. A fine choice for the award, even if Sexson was equally as deserving.
Honus - I imagine you'd be singing a different tune if he actually was on the Indians. No one is apologizing for him. He pulled off a great, clean comeback and won an award that he probably deserved. Doesn't mean what he did isn't repugnant, vile and should be condemned. Don't be so bitter, Wickman would have lost to Sexson anyway if Giambi wasn't in the running.
Wharfrat, he hasn't owned up to anything and he hasn't taken anything "like a man." He took it like a crying little selfish pathetic girl. And even though in most years this is a fairly meaningless award, I think this year it shows just how corrupt baseball still is. It DOES matter what someone has come back from. If a player beat his wife and kid to a pulp and missed 80% of the season because he was in jail, and then came back the next year and played a full season - is he supposed to be a Comeback Award winner?
And as far as me singing a different tune if Giambi was on the Indians and playing a key role in them making the playoffs, you couldn't be farther from the truth. I would be completely embarassed if Giambi were the reason the Indians made the playoffs. I would much rather Northern Ohio not appear to be a "win at all costs even if it means cheating" part of the country. The Yankees have a great tradition of winning (even if recently it has been subsidized by substantial salary spending well above and beyond the league norm). I would think true Yankee fans would say, "You know what, I'd rather us just take a year off from the playoffs than to have a goon like Giambi tarnish our team and our home even further." Instead, people like you just HAVE to get your annual October pick-me-up. I support the Indians and hope they win and all, but I am not so personally vested in them that I just collapse if they don't win. I root for the Cavs and the Browns too, and none of the three has ever won a National Championship in the 33 years I've been alive. Believe me, I can handle a missed playoff run just fine.
The people of Baltimore showed some class when they booed Palmeiro. Unfortunately, the people of San Francisco did no such thing with Bonds. He probably will be the Comeback Player of the year next year and it will be a complete joke, just like this year.
A commissioner in the past banned 8 players from the league for life for cheating and we haven't had players throwing a game since. All it would take would be for tough "chemical improvement" standards to be set and equally tough punishments to be handed out to a handful of players and all of this crap of "who's on and who's not and who's clean and who's not and who's comeback is legit and who's is not" would be a thing of the past.
As for Mr. Atrophying Testicles with a Giambi-lover sig, your comments carry absolutely no weight in a discussion of this topic.
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