GotowarMissAgnes wrote: theclefe wrote: TB13 wrote:
theclefe wrote: but he is the best rookie pitcher behind Duke this season
I could have sworn that some guy named Felix is claiming the top "rookie" pitcher slot.
It is Duke until I say so... or Felix gets another 4 wins. King Felix's ERA has been steadily climbing since his second start, so lets not get ahead of ourselves.
Wins suck as a measure of pitcher quality, so the number of wins these two have is irrelevant.
After that second start, Felix's ERA was 0.69, so it has "steadily climbed" to an astronomical 1.75 (sort of like Duke's climbed too before he got DL'd).
Let's get to some real comparisons:
WHIP 0.75 versus 1.17
K/9 9.5 versus 6.6
K/BB 7.6 versus 2.75
BAA .178 versus .243
OPSA .447 versus .632
You can say anything you want. The numbers don't lie.
Numbers don't lie... nor does a flashy car driven by an old man.
Wins do not suck when measuring a pitcher, but regardless I was using it to show Hernandez sample is still much smaller than Duke's. Duke actually pitched 9 shutout innings before going on the DL, bringing his ERA from 2.13 to 1.81. Duke has pitched in four games were he hasn't given up a run. The King has pitched in five games total, only one runless.
Those aren't real comparisons when one pitcher has only a handful of starts. One bad game for Felix and every number you just listed jumps up at least 20%, because the kid only has 30+ innings under his belt. Two bad games and his numbers will start to look more like Kerry Wood.
In terms of potential, and actually ability, Felix has Duke beat. But Duke has done it the best this season with production and consistency.
Chacin should be in the discussion, but he is a diffrent type of rookie.
And, of course, everything I just said made my argument for baker less valid. Pick him anyway.