hybrid wrote:Yep, and didn't they just release A.J. for nothing cause he "wore out his welcome"? So they gave up Nathan, Boof, and Liriano (who is really looking like a steal) for a 1 year player .... I would cringe at that deal if I was a Giants fan.
I dont really fault Sabean for how wrong that trade went, but when I look back on all the things that did happen because of it, I do indeed cringe. Lets take a look:
First, the trade happens. The Giants get rid of Nathan, who had been very good the year before, and receive Pierzynski, a hitting catcher who has a history of players disliking him. The trade blocks Torrealba, a good defensive catcher who's hitting would probably have improved with more experience, from becoming a starter.
As we all know, Nathan goes on to become a top closer, and the Giants (after another failed comeback by the great Rob Nen) are left to throw Matt Herges out in the 9th inning. That quickly turns into a gigantic disaster, so Hermanson is brought in to do the closing duties. He fairs well, very well in fact, over most of the last part of the season, but blows an important game at the very end of the season.
For some reason, the Giants fail to bring Hermanson back for 2005, and thus have to spend lots of cash to bring in Benitez. As we all know, Benitez tears his groin off his bone, while Hermanson does very well as closer for the White Sox. Meanwhile, having pissed off management and fellow players the year before, Pierzynski is released, and so the Giants spend yet more money to bring in Matheny, who admittedly has been excellent and a joy to watch.
The original trade, therefore, turned out to be essentially Joe Nathan and lots of cash for Tyler Walker and Matheny. I would much rather have the stable Nathan closing games, the up-and-coming Torrealba behind the plate, and some stud pitcher brought in with all the cash saved.
That trade has been a disaster.
There, I feel a little bit better.
Oh, by the way, Winn for Torrealba and Foppert? Not a great deal, not a terrible deal. Lets just hope the Giants win next year