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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 11:22 pm
by DK
Rirruto wrote:
DK wrote:It's the fact that he is the better hitter, and since he's Latin he brings more $$ to the box office.

I doubt that, even with Latin players such as Beltran, Pedro, Reyes, etc., the seats at Shea are still prodominantly filled by White fans. If Manny was a Met, it would bring in more money because he was Manny, not because he's Latin.


I'd have to see actual figures to agree with you on that, I've been to a few games this year and have seen many Latin fans there.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 11:24 pm
by Rirruto
DK wrote:
Rirruto wrote:
DK wrote:It's the fact that he is the better hitter, and since he's Latin he brings more $$ to the box office.

I doubt that, even with Latin players such as Beltran, Pedro, Reyes, etc., the seats at Shea are still prodominantly filled by White fans. If Manny was a Met, it would bring in more money because he was Manny, not because he's Latin.


I'd have to see actual figures to agree with you on that, I've been to a few games this year and have seen many Latin fans there.

I didn't say there weren't any Latino fans at Shea, I said fans at Shea are predominantly White; just like at most sports venues.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:04 am
by gws226
Transmogrifier wrote:Sure, Manny is a better hitter. But his ethnicity comes in to play--of course it does! Minaya has pretty much said it straight out--that's why he went so hard after Beltran and Pedro.

It's the reason why the Yanks will pay whatever they need to to sign Matsui--he brings them huge ad revenue alone.


Ya know, I really hate that in sports. For me its never been about where someone is from, its all about how they competed as a person. I have as many minority friends as I do white friends, and Im white...... but I might be against the mold.

I imagine that if Omar purposefully stocks the team and takes preference towards one ethnicity, that there will be a backlash from the others. Especially if I hear that he passed on Adam Dunn for less then what it would of cost him to land other players just because he's white.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:35 am
by DK
gws226 wrote:
Transmogrifier wrote:Sure, Manny is a better hitter. But his ethnicity comes in to play--of course it does! Minaya has pretty much said it straight out--that's why he went so hard after Beltran and Pedro.

It's the reason why the Yanks will pay whatever they need to to sign Matsui--he brings them huge ad revenue alone.


Ya know, I really hate that in sports. For me its never been about where someone is from, its all about how they competed as a person. I have as many minority friends as I do white friends, and Im white...... but I might be against the mold.

I imagine that if Omar purposefully stocks the team and takes preference towards one ethnicity, that there will be a backlash from the others. Especially if I hear that he passed on Adam Dunn for less then what it would of cost him to land other players just because he's white.


I explained this already... Look up a few posts.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:52 pm
by Iconoclastic
Mark Teixeira isn't Latino???

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 1:00 pm
by Fireball Express
Iconoclastic wrote:Mark Teixeira isn't Latino???


He was born here in the good ole US of A. However that is an interesting surname. Maybe his ancestors were from Mexico? Just guessing there. Anyone know for sure?

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 1:01 pm
by Amazinz
I guess he is. Born in the U.S. but he is of Portuguese descent.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 1:03 pm
by bd3521
Tex is of Mexican descent and "born in the USA," as Bruce would say.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 1:07 pm
by Amazinz
Lol. He's Portuguese not Mexican, look it up.

http://www.portuguesefoundation.org/famous.htm

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 1:08 pm
by Rirruto
Manny Ramirez spoke to the Red Sox print media today at Fenway Park, telling the assembled reporters he is happy playing in Boston and wants to stay with the Sox, the Globe’s Gordon Edes reported. Ramirez also said he gets along with Terry Francona, and that, contrary to reports, he didn’t pull himself out of the Red Sox lineup last night. Francona is planning on keeping Ramirez out of today’s lineup as well.

Ramirez (along with Kevin Millar) had entered Francona’s office as reporters were talking with the Sox manager. Buckley said that Francona had planned to bring Ramirez into his office so the slugger could clear the air with the media.

The Providence Journal’s Sean McAdam called it “another bizarre moment in a week full of them.”