theclefe wrote:Madison wrote:theclefe wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/photo?slug= ... 07&prov=ap
I think this is the closest example of Guillens slide. It was a hard, straight on slide with simliar foot position and height. With how low Chipper stretched, a slide like this could have easily caught his leg and not be intentional.
Again, not close. Pic was taken at eye level, yet you can see the cleat is pointed down, and definitely not verticle. There's no way he spikes Young unless it's on the foot. Guillen's foot was much higher and the spikes were up. Huge difference in the two and not comparable.
At the point of impact, I really don't think his foot was any higher than Shea's.
Just seems our memories are different. I remember the foot being higher (ripping Chipper's pants toward the top of his inner thigh) and the spikes being up, not down. You remember it differently. No biggie, but that's why we disagree about the slide. If you could see it again, I'd think it would be safe to say that you would at least understand the complaints. Maybe not agree that it was dirty, but understand why people are calling it dirty. It was far from clean. Hillenbrand's slide in that photo is fine with me, but it's nothing similar to what Guillen did.
Always fun to talk.