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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:08 pm
by Transmogrifier
That Manny and Ortiz bat from opposite sides of the plate helps, too (unlike, say Sheff/Arod, etc.).

PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:20 pm
by The_Met_Threat
Beltran-Piazza think Prime lol. Also Reyes-Cameron, Piazza-Floyd, Marlon Anderson-Wright. All great 1-2 punches. The mets prolly have the only 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 in the league. And Pedro can hit em out ;-D

PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:21 pm
by Flockers
Atrophying Testicles wrote:If this were 1-2-3 there is no comparison to Sheff, ARod, Matsui. Otherwise it has to be Manny and Ortiz.


Teixeira/Blalock/Soriano

PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:47 pm
by blankman
Transmogrifier wrote:That Manny and Ortiz bat from opposite sides of the plate helps, too (unlike, say Sheff/Arod, etc.).


So?

Maybe it looks nice, but I really don't think it makes a difference with only two players if the rest of the lineup is spread out. If the order was all righty then sure, but in the example you gave, that team's got

R
L
R
R
L
L
S
S
S

In that order, it hardly matters.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:48 pm
by blankman
Flockers wrote:
Atrophying Testicles wrote:If this were 1-2-3 there is no comparison to Sheff, ARod, Matsui. Otherwise it has to be Manny and Ortiz.


Teixeira/Blalock/Soriano


Don't think so.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:56 pm
by Mustangs989
Just going off Runs Created this is how they stack up this year....It's obviously not perfect as injuries play a big part in this. I just decided it'd be interesting to see how everyone stacked up and decided to post it here.

    Dlee/Aram 154.3
    Arod/Sheff 142.4
    Pujols/Edmonds 133.8
    Manny/Ortiz 131.8
    Mcab/Delgado 131.6
    Roberts/Mora 127.2
    Tex/Soriano 126.4
    Mora/Tejada 125.2

PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 6:30 pm
by blankman
Mustangs989 wrote:Just going off Runs Created this is how they stack up this year....It's obviously not perfect as injuries play a big part in this. I just decided it'd be interesting to see how everyone stacked up and decided to post it here.

    Dlee/Aram 154.3
    Arod/Sheff 142.4
    Pujols/Edmonds 133.8
    Manny/Ortiz 131.8
    Mcab/Delgado 131.6
    Roberts/Mora 127.2
    Tex/Soriano 126.4
    Mora/Tejada 125.2


Nice post; do you have last year's numbers for the same players? Yes I know the batting order wasn't necessarily the same last season as well as from FA signings, but I think that part only affects Cabrera and Delgado.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 9:38 pm
by Transmogrifier
blankman wrote:
Transmogrifier wrote:That Manny and Ortiz bat from opposite sides of the plate helps, too (unlike, say Sheff/Arod, etc.).


So?

Maybe it looks nice, but I really don't think it makes a difference with only two players if the rest of the lineup is spread out. If the order was all righty then sure, but in the example you gave, that team's got

R
L
R
R
L
L
S
S
S

In that order, it hardly matters.


We're not talking about the whole team, blank, just the best two hitters back to back. When you're talking about two top players back to back, that they bat from opposite sides of the plate is important. You can't bring in a righty killer or LOOGY to face the likes of Manny/Ortiz, Delgado/Cabrera, Pujols/Edmonds, etc.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 9:43 pm
by davidmarver
I'd take Pujols, Rolen, Edmonds over Sheff, ARod, and Matsui.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 9:55 pm
by Transmogrifier
davidmarver wrote:I'd take Pujols, Rolen, Edmonds over Sheff, ARod, and Matsui.


A healthy Rolen? Yeah. But not this year.