bigh0rt wrote:You didn't answer my question. Does everybody not meeting your criteria suck? If so, that's fine. We just have different books, then, on what we consider suck and what doesn't suck. So long as you stay consistant.
You mention Halladay and Clemens as your test subjects to measure against Unit. I figured I'd check out on their %s compared with Unit's, and based on these two numbers alone, they've been about twice as effective as he has (despite Clemens only matching Unit's win total; but that's a different thread)
Recap - Unit: 35/47%
72% of his starts this year with 2 or less ER.
83% of his starts have gone 7.0 IP or more, which is not just a measure of him pitching better than Unit, though that certainly comes into play. Being 14 years younger and having a bullpen considerably worse than Johnson must be taken into account.
83% of his starts this year with 2 or less ER.
72% of his starts this year have gone 7.0 IP or more.
Considerably better than Johnson, admitted. I wouldn't have taken the time to look up the numbers if I didn't have a point, though. My statement patience is a virtue holds true, though. If you'd looked at the numbers, you may have picked it up, but now maybe you'll go check it out. What was the last year ol' Unit carried a higher ERA in the second half than in the first? You may be surprised at the answer. So yes, patience is a virtue. I'm not saying three years patience like you ask the average fan; we've already learned that with Yankee fans (stereotypically, and clearly you BronxBombers, based on your last post alone, can't be bothered with that) want their immediate fix (and there's nothing wrong with that, either), so all I'm saying is, don't go making stupid claims (yes, in my opinion, they are stupid claims) like Randy Johnson sucks after one half of average baseball. He's one of the most dominant pitchers baseball has ever seen, period. To claim anything else is ignorance, and nothing more. Be disappointed with his performance so far, and the dropoff from his career averages, go ahead, just don't get all mellow dramatic and exaggerate. All I'm asking.
Your question? If the pitcher doesn't meet my criteria and he's making 16 million dollars, yes, he does suck, and severely. I'd have no problem with RJ's numbers if he was brought in to be our fourth starter, for 5 million a year. He's supposed to be the best pitcher in baseball, that garbage he's thrown up there does not meet my criteria.
I didn't need to see the numbers to tell you Halladay and Clemens have kicked Johnson's ass this year. It's obvious. While those two dominate like Hall of Fame pitchers, Johnson looks like a rookie. Where'd the big bad Randy go? He was alive and kicking 10 months ago. He was the best pitcher in baseball.
I am not in favor of quick fixes. I would rather the Yankees be young and be good for years to come rather than get old superstars to win, then retire, then have to build all over again.
BUT, the Yankees chose the path of quick fixes, and the win now mentality. So when they go get Randy Johnson, a 41 year old pitcher who has dominated the game for 15 years, and they put 200 million dollars into the team, yes, I do expect them to win NOW. If the guy was 28 years old, I'd have patience. He's 41. He's not some young kid trying to make a name for himself. He's 1 of the 2 greatest left-handed pitchers in THE HISTORY OF BASEBALL. The performances he's given thus far this year are unacceptable.
I'm not saying Randy Johnson always has sucked or will suck forever. I'm saying right now, he SUCKS. That is the truth. With the New York Yankees, Randy Johnson has sucked. That does not take away from his HoF career, or the fact that he's one of the greatest pitchers ever. He just plainly has been bad this year. That's what my original statement said. I don't know where you can pull from that that I'm attacking his career numbers. They are amazing. But he's been bad in New York and that's the bottom line. I'm not being ignorant or exaggerating. He has not done his job this year. And because of it, the Yankees may miss the postseason for the first time in a decade.