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Postby KolbSaves » Mon Jul 04, 2005 1:50 am

HOOTIE wrote:As long as the fans only vote in a small %, it's not too bad. In reality, the All Star game is nothing but a exhibition game. So the fans deserve a say. As far as ballot stuffing, St. Louis is as bad as any city.

The problem is that it's not an exhibition game anymore, it actually impacts the real season. THAT is the travesty here.
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Postby revenge_of_the_cards » Mon Jul 04, 2005 1:52 am

indeed, i love my cards, but i dont want the hopes of home field advantage relying on mark grudzilenik and david eckstein. and if u dont watch family guy u wont get the yankees suck, knicks suck, jets suck joke
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Postby mweir145 » Mon Jul 04, 2005 2:00 am

Mark Grudzulanik didn't make any All-Star Game :-?
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Postby revenge_of_the_cards » Mon Jul 04, 2005 2:14 am

im just saying guys that are up there, cuz all card fans vote 25 times for there whole team. Thats how edmonds is up there. All cards are in top 5 pretty much.
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Postby mweir145 » Mon Jul 04, 2005 2:19 am

revenge_of_the_cards wrote:im just saying guys that are up there, cuz all card fans vote 25 times for there whole team. Thats how edmonds is up there. All cards are in top 5 pretty much.


Were you one of those fans? :-b

Cards fans are thought to be the most knowledgable of baseball fans, but I'm not so sure they are especially based on these All-Star votes the last few years. :-?
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Postby SaintsOfTheDiamond » Mon Jul 04, 2005 2:45 am

KolbSaves wrote:
HOOTIE wrote:As long as the fans only vote in a small %, it's not too bad. In reality, the All Star game is nothing but a exhibition game. So the fans deserve a say. As far as ballot stuffing, St. Louis is as bad as any city.

The problem is that it's not an exhibition game anymore, it actually impacts the real season. THAT is the travesty here.

That's the part that rubs me the wrong way with all this. If is wasn't for Selig and his "this one counts" mantra, I would have no problem with the current setup, but since something relatively important is at stake, I think both sides have to play to win, at almost any cost.
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Postby KolbSaves » Mon Jul 04, 2005 2:51 am

SaintsOfTheDiamond wrote:
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HOOTIE wrote:As long as the fans only vote in a small %, it's not too bad. In reality, the All Star game is nothing but a exhibition game. So the fans deserve a say. As far as ballot stuffing, St. Louis is as bad as any city.

The problem is that it's not an exhibition game anymore, it actually impacts the real season. THAT is the travesty here.

That's the part that rubs me the wrong way with all this. If is wasn't for Selig and his "this one counts" mantra, I would have no problem with the current setup, but since something relatively important is at stake, I think both sides have to play to win, at almost any cost.

But what does Brian Fuentes have at stake? Since it "counts" shouldn't the managers stack the teams with players that presumably will have something at stake? Sorry Carl Crawford, you just don't have enough at stake this year.

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Postby SaintsOfTheDiamond » Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:07 am

KolbSaves wrote:But what does Brian Fuentes have at stake? Since it "counts" shouldn't the managers stack the teams with players that presumably will have something at stake? Sorry Carl Crawford, you just don't have enough at stake this year.

I see what you're saying, but in the Fuentes made it by the other crappy rule (one representative from every team). I think he will fill the left specialist role quite well considering how he's played lately, but the system is still a complete joke if you ask me. Either make it count and pick the teams that way, or make it an exhibition and let fans pick the teams and let the play on the field determine home field. :-t
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Postby HOOTIE » Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:12 am

KolbSaves wrote:
HOOTIE wrote:As long as the fans only vote in a small %, it's not too bad. In reality, the All Star game is nothing but a exhibition game. So the fans deserve a say. As far as ballot stuffing, St. Louis is as bad as any city.

The problem is that it's not an exhibition game anymore, it actually impacts the real season. THAT is the travesty here.


Well it's not played that way no matter the fans vote. If the game was truly played to win only, and not a exhibition game, DLee, Pujols, etc, the real studs, would play all 9 innings, and sp like Halladay and Clemens would go more then 3 innings. It's still played like a exhibition. And if the fans vote impacts the game, it's still more a exhibition, with a home field thrown in.
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