Madison wrote:It's only fun if you win something worth winning. Beating someone else for a lousy 7 day stretch of the season is no big deal. So you had a hot streak and they had a cold one. That doesn't say anything at all. Doesn't prove anything at all. Just a big waste of breath to brag about winning one lousy 7 day stretch.
The only time that losing a 7 day stretch is going to really hurt you is in the playoffs. By then, only the best teams will even be playing. You make it sound like the worst team has just as much chance of winning on any given week than the best team. This is simply not true.
Not true? I watch it every year. I see teams that need to be completely reworked win simply because 1 or 2 guys got hot, or because the better team stunk it up for a week. Any team can win on any given week. That's why H2H has gained popularity over the years.
Madison wrote:Never said there wasn't any luck in roto, just that luck is much more important in H2H. You can have the best team, the most consistant scoring, and not even make the playoffs in H2H. That's not the case in roto.
There is no way the best team with the most consistant scoring will NOT make the playoffs. This isn't fantasy football. The accumulation of wins, losses and ties makes luck a lot less of a factor than you're making it out to be. In a traditional 5X5 league, there are 220 individual matchups (games) split up to determine one's record. Fantasy football has 14. Luck will most definitely factor into some of those matchups, but the leader in Runs is going to win the "Runs" category a whole lot more often than he loses it.
No point in arguing this, so I'll leave it be.
Madison wrote:Roto and H2H are completely different animals. H2H players want immediate gratification for having a hot 7 day stretch (or if they luck out and their opponent has a rough 7 day stretch) while roto players dig in for the long run. Maybe that's the big difference. You get gift wins in H2H when your opponent's team has a rough week. Something you don't get in roto leagues.
Immediate gratification? First place in our league has changed place 4 times. There are 22 H2H matchups before the playoffs. Granted, luck may be a factor over any given week, but luck will only take you so far in a 22 week season. The baseball season is 6 months long and there can only be one league winner. Regardless of what type of fantasy baseball you play, you're dug in for the long run.
Yes, immediate gratification. Just read the answers in this thread. People like H2H because no matter what spot they are in, they get to brag if they win and every week they have a chance to win. Most don't care at all about the yearly standings and there's no reason to. All you have to do is be in the top half (depending on the league) and you make the playoffs. In roto, it's either win the year or go home. There's no saving you if you finish with the second best team. Most people don't like that level of competition. Second best is pretty good in a H2H league, but nets you jack diddly squat in a roto league.
Josebach wrote: Madison wrote:
Anyway, roto will always be the king of fantasy baseball.
Judging by the poll results, I think I'd have to disagree with you. Just because roto was around first, doesn't mean it's better.
Popularity, and what's better, are two completely different things. Just look at the All-Star Game voting for proof of that
. You want the best game, it's roto. Period.
Joesbach wrote:By accumulating statistics over the entire season, you're giving a huge advantage to the person that drafted the healthiest team. The best team at the end of the season is the one that should win the league. That's why MLB has the playoffs and doesn't choose the World Champion by which team has the best stats. Think about it. If real baseball was all about stats, players would only care about their personal statistics. The only players that would care about wins would be the pitchers.
Every week you win in H2H is a reason to celebrate. You could potentially celebrate 25 times in any given season. In roto, you basically celebrate once. I know which one to me sounds like more fun.
Where is it written that fantasy baseball has to mimic real baseball? If I wanted that, there's a whole online community of real people with real teams of real players constantly playing games through X-Box and PS2 set ups.
The object of the game is to have the best average, most runs, most home runs, most rbi, most steals, best era, best whip, most wins, most saves, and the most k's. Just not a fan of judging the "good" teams from the "bad" teams on 7 day stretches at a time. Not any fun and not accurate of the best teams at all.
I've fought my way through more injury ridden teams than I can count and still wound up winning the championship. That's called managing your team. That's what the game is about.
Fun is all what you make of it. Personally, me having a better week than you is not worth celebrating. For 7 lousy days I fielded a better team. Big frickin deal. It's not some sort of major accomplishment in my book. Ever hear someone brag about being in first after one week in a roto league? Of course not. It's no big accomplishment. There's no reason to brag about it even though that team has been better than ALL the teams in the whole league for a week. Now have the best team for the entire season? That's a reason to break out the Yoo-Hoo!
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