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Derrek Lee: Keep or Sell?

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Postby Darkie Satchels » Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:24 pm

Keep. I mean - in my book I'm dumbfounded you would look to trade unless you were lacking some power in your lineup (getting two average to good players for Lee).
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Postby BigMusky » Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:33 pm

I having been thinking of shipping Derrek Lee off for Pujols. You probably would not have to give up much else to swing it. Look at their numbers...as good as Lee has been Pujols is still right there.


H/AB R HR RBI SB K AVG
D. Lee (ChC - 1B) 74/190 43 17 50 9 35 .389
A. Pujols (StL - 1B) 69/208 38 12 42 4 22 .332
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Postby Yoda » Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:37 pm

While it's true that there is no where to go but down from here for Lee, I would not trade him for anyone unless you get an offer you absolutely cannot refuse. One for one, the only guys I would trade him for would be Arod, Vlad and Pujols.
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Postby KronJon » Fri Jun 03, 2005 4:33 pm

I traded Lee for Pujols about a week ago.


So far Lee has been better. But I'm confident that will turn around.
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Postby CBMGreatOne » Fri Jun 03, 2005 4:47 pm

With this start its hard for me to see him posting less than a 320 avg 35 HR, 110 RBI, 105 RBI and 20 SB.


He would have to tail off horribly to only do the above.

Possible, but I'd say he's a lock for at least 15 more RBI than that, probably more of everything else too by about 10%.
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Postby DGroundhog » Fri Jun 03, 2005 4:57 pm

Sell.

Too many bad things happen to the Cubs. The jinx hits D Lee eventually.
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Postby pibb55 » Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:03 pm

Derek Lees in the same category as Scott Rolen was in last year after May, and I think he'll finish the same, with a bit of a drop off but solid stats still. I say he's worth trading because his value is much higher than what he'll end up putting up the rest of the year.

Top= Rolen last year after May
Bottom= Lee after May
50Games--64/184---.348---31RUN---13HR---53RBI
50Games--66/182---.362---39RUN---16HR---46RBI

What Rolen did the rest of the year
92Games--93/316---.294---78RUN---24HR---71RBI

That would leave Lee's final numbers looking something like this...
.326---137RUN---45HR---111RBI
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Postby KronJon » Sat Jun 04, 2005 12:19 am

^ No offense but that is a bad comparison.

Rolen was part of one of the best offensive clubs in baseball with Pujols, Edmonds, and Walker in the lineup with him. That gave him way more opportunities to put up big numbers than Lee will get.

Lee especially will not lead the league in RBI's. He has guys like Hairston and Neifi Perez hitting in front of him. In fact, I think he already lost his RBI lead tonight as Carlos Lee hit a grand slam.
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Postby thehat » Sat Jun 04, 2005 2:57 am

Hey, if you can get Pujols for him, you pull the trigger. Maybe two or three other guys as well, but that's about it.

Otherwise, you sit back and enjoy the ride with a first round performer that went a lot later than that everywhere.

And don't panic when DLee hits a slump. He's always been streaky and will certainly pull a 2 for 25 skid sometime. Don't suddenly get frazzled and shop him as he'll most likely get hot again. This is a guy who has always been on the cusp of stardom and it looks like he's finally figured it all out.
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Postby DEF » Sat Jun 04, 2005 8:20 am

Darkie Satchels wrote:Keep. I mean - in my book I'm dumbfounded you would look to trade unless you were lacking some power in your lineup (getting two average to good players for Lee).


Anyone trading Lee for "two average to good players" should just give up on fantasy baseball right now. If you can't land at least a first-round talent or a package of several VERY good players in return, then something is very, very wrong with you. Lee in a normal year as a solid power-hitting 1B with well above average steals (for the position) is worth a couple of "average to good players". With the numbers he's putting up now, he should cost anyone a hell of a lot more than that to acquire.
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