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Postby RynMan » Tue May 24, 2005 6:01 pm

Hey guys, just wondering what books are a good read on the theories behind sabremetrics? I have read moneyball and it touched a little on some of James' theories and was wondering what other kinds of books are out there that talk about statistical strategies and probability? The New Bill James Historical Abstract a good book? Any suggestions are appreciated!
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Postby Tavish » Tue May 24, 2005 6:16 pm

If you just want to get your feet wet then reading websites like some of these are an excellent source. James's Abstracts (including the Historical) or any of the Palmer Total Baseball books are great starts.
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Postby RynMan » Tue May 24, 2005 7:46 pm

Thanks Tavish!
Yeah Im a BP subscriber, and just looking at reading some books. How about the book "Curveball"? Isnt that about probability and related topics?
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Postby Tavish » Tue May 24, 2005 9:46 pm

RynMan wrote:Thanks Tavish!
Yeah Im a BP subscriber, and just looking at reading some books. How about the book "Curveball"? Isnt that about probability and related topics?


I honestly didn't make it all the way through Curveball. It really sounded intriguing, but it read more like a book aimed towards junior high school math classes. Nothing wrong with that really and it may have gotten more indepth as it went on. But it was full of typos and not interesting enough for me to finish.

If you haven't read The Numbers Game, I definitely suggest that, although its not really a probability disection, it is a really great look at how the numbers of baseball came to be. A great history lesson as well as some tactics thrown in.

For a really indepth strategy book get "The Book on the Book" by Ferber. It probably has everything you are looking for. Everything from game tatic disections to using payroll wisely. Its a better version of Moneyball (not nearly as much Beane-is-God butt-kissing going on in the book).
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Postby RynMan » Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:52 am

Just wanted to bump this thread if anyone else has read any good books.

Tavish: The reason I couldn't find The Book on the Book was because the author's name is actually Felber - not Ferber.
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Postby BobbyRoberto » Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:23 am

"The Diamond Mind," by Craig Wright and Tom House is one I've heard of but haven't read.
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Postby RynMan » Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:47 am

BobbyRoberto wrote:"The Diamond Mind," by Craig Wright and Tom House is one I've heard of but haven't read.


I cant find it on amazon.com.....any links?
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Postby so0perspam » Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:20 am

RynMan wrote:
BobbyRoberto wrote:"The Diamond Mind," by Craig Wright and Tom House is one I've heard of but haven't read.


I cant find it on amazon.com.....any links?


This may be the one he was referring to. :-?
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Postby beltrans_boy » Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:51 am

I just picked up the New Historical Baseball Abstract and I'm loving it. There's a ton of interesting information about baseball history, and James applies sabermetric principles to historical analysis. There are some great essays in the book too.

I especially like the information about the Negro Leagues...
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Postby Tavish » Mon Jul 11, 2005 4:02 pm

RynMan wrote:Just wanted to bump this thread if anyone else has read any good books.

Tavish: The reason I couldn't find The Book on the Book was because the author's name is actually Felber - not Ferber.


Ain't that a kick in the pants. Ferber Felber, Teixeira Tiexiera, close enough. ;-D

Were you finally able to track it down and read any?
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