Conner wrote:davidmarver wrote:Conner wrote:Either way...Save percetage is still a terrible statistic. Does it factor in two inning opportunies? Or how many times each of them came in with a 1 run lead, with guys on base? I'm not even going to bother with the "pressure situations" stuff (although it's tough to argue against Rivera being in many more of them than Hoffman) because it's just not quantifiable.
But, again: I know that, as a Padre's fan, you've not nothing else to be proud of besides Trevor Hoffman....but nobody else cares.
Wouldn't, in theory, it make more sense that Rivera came in with three-run leads more often than Hoffman since the Yankees have always been a better hitting team?
And the whole pressure thing is ridiculous. If a closer can't close in pressure situations what's the purpose of closing?
Can't you just lt it go?
The entire reason this "debate" started was because I said Rivera's one of the few guys who've stayed dominant over a long time, without getting hurt.
In return, you come up with save percentage (88 to 87) and the fact that Hoffman had one single season that's better than Rivera's.
Rivera's 100X better than Trevor Hoffman, and always has been. Hoffman could never do anything Rivera has done.
Rivera is the single reason for the yankees success during his career, and Hoffman is the reason for the Padre's sucking all these years.
Go cry about it.
lol...Rivera's come through in the playoffs.
When you compare reg season stats, Hoffman matches up very well. However, when you account for the number of big games (playoffs) Rivera's saved in his career, he is by far the more reliable closer.