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ocmusicjunkie wrote:Slomo, I never said anything about you being a bandwagon hopper. I don't know how long you've been talking about Zito taking a downturn... for all I know it could have been three years ago. All I know is that this uprise against him certainly took place over a very short period of time. Most of the people I know who joined in (both here and in my personal leagues) were the ones defending him midway last season, when nothing at all was different from right now. I wasn't pointing fingers, but it's funny how over a few starts this guy went from a slumping star to a ww bum.
Also, I didn't see anything in this thread suggesting that he simply had to work on his pitch selection. Many guys said he was "figured out"... whatever that means. I'm also yet to see anything here that suggests why he couldn't get back to a 3.xx ERA if he just fixed the problem between his ears.
slomo007 wrote:GSes, hear me out before bashing me. If Tadahito really knew Zito the same way 75% of the other batters know Zito....he would have known that when Zito has runners on base, he can't afford to walk someone. When he can't afford to walk someone, he abandons his curve when he's behind in the count. Therefore, what you need to do is simply wait for the fastball....which WILL come when he misses his curve location (which he tends to do when runners are on base). That is how you beat Zito...I'm not even a Major Leaguer and I can figure it out.
It's not ludcrious if you really think about it. That inning could have been big, but Zito had a batter who chased a curve like most batters wouldn't have done when Zito is in trouble. That's exactly what leads to his big innings, and that's what would have led to another one if he were more expereienced with him.
TheYanks04 wrote:Now hitters look like they are sitting on the heat knowing he will eventually get behind some hitters and they can tee off on his very mediocre fastball.
slomo007 wrote:Bingo, you hit the nail on the head. And that after admitting you are not an expert.
Zito has nothing when he's got runners on and is behind in the count. The only reason he is dominant through portions is when he prevents the runners getting on in the first place. That won't happen consistently though, due to the overwhelming chances that there will be a couple of bloop singles or an error or some other way of men getting on base.
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