slomo007 wrote:GSes wrote:uh slomo is completely ludacris for you to be making asumptions of things like o well the 3rd inning could have been huge because tadhito is inexperienced and dosen't know how to hit zito. wtf are u joking me.
you did not watch the game, there for you can in no way make assumptions like that, that is not your place to do that and I think you know that, and calling zito LUCKY? cuz he got a guy to chase a curveball in the dirt and got out of one inning with guys on basE? comee on, i guess everytime any pitcher gets a guy out we need to call him lucky? thats a joke.
Now your right, the final line in the box score does not look all that great, and that is your and everyone else's choice on how they want to look at a player's performance.
I watched the game, I saw he pitched great, the pitch count got up there and the guys that got on before everett got up ONLY GOT ON because of lucky bloop singles. if zito gets them out, then he only gives up 2ER and his night is pretty good.
GSes, hear me out before bashing me. If Tadahito really knew Zito the same way 75% of the other batters know Zito....he would have known that when Zito has runners on base, he can't afford to walk someone. When he can't afford to walk someone, he abandons his curve when he's behind in the count. Therefore, what you need to do is simply wait for the fastball....which WILL come when he misses his curve location (which he tends to do when runners are on base). That is how you beat Zito...I'm not even a Major Leaguer and I can figure it out.
It's not ludcrious if you really think about it. That inning could have been big, but Zito had a batter who chased a curve like most batters wouldn't have done when Zito is in trouble. That's exactly what leads to his big innings, and that's what would have led to another one if he were more expereienced with him.
I have seen PLENTY of Major league AMERICAN born hitters swing and miss at zito's curveball WITH runner's on base. This idea you have that its ONLY iguchi is not a valid argument in my opinion.
Iguchi swings at everything and everyone, he swings A LOT just like Ichiro and he puts every ball into play.
When Ichiro was at bat against Zito last game and he had runner's on Ichiro JUST like iguchi SWUNG and missed at zito's off speed stuff. it was the same exact thing.
except Ichiro has been in the league since zito came up almost, and has seen zito many many many times.
so my comeback for you on this whole iguchi thing, is that ichiro did the same thing with guys on base, and ichiro swung out one time and grounded out another.