slomo007 wrote:Of the guys you listed:
Wells was hurt last year
Mussina had a fluke first half, rebounded second half
Vazquez had a great first half, weird second half, jury's still out on him this year
Giambi was hurt/recovering from steroids/etc last year (and for the record, he is almost droppable unless he starts showing his power this year)
Zito was healthy last year
There's the big difference. There is absolutely nothing that shows he might rebound. I would probably even feel better about him if he was hurt or did not have his velocity or something. But the truth is, he does have his velocity, and he is not hurt. Hitters are crushing his pure "stuff." I think it's simple, hitters have figured him out. That's really all the analysis it takes to figure this out, and yet some people are completely blinded by the seasons he had 2-3 years ago that they think it's a sin to drop a guy who is in reality a WW pitcher. Even if he rebounds a little, I don't see all that much value in a 4.0 ERA, good K, high WHIP guy. Maybe that's just me, but it's not like it's taking all that much of a gamble by dropping him. If you can get anything of value in a trade for him....go for it. If you can't, I think he's droppable.
your 100% right.
and you prooved my point about all those guys i listed as for reasons why i believe all those guys will bounce back. lol
as far as zito goes, like i said before he isn't going to rebound to 2002 or 2003 form.
His hit rate was at 25 and 26 % in 2003 and 2002 and last year it went to the normal 30%.
Zito's K's did go back up last year. I have watched zito week end and week out his whole career and the truth is............. it is possible for him to figure it all out again one day and turn his career back into the direction of a superstar
but for right now and the last year or so, Barry Zito has been having many problems:
1. he gets behind hitters early which just kills him
2. when he dosen't have his curve working and or the umpire is not calling it for strikes the opposing hitters just chose to not swing at the curve and take it for a BALL. this leaves zito with 2 pitches a fastball and changeup giving the hitters a 50/50 chance of guessing the pitch.
3. He just always seems to make that one bad pitch at the worst time (last nite vs bret boone and the grand slam)
Now the thing is, the REST of the game from the At bat right after Boone to his final out of the night where he got a strikeout, zito was in his groove, gettin ahead of hitters, throwin his curve for strikes and just getting it done.
4. every single game zito always seems to have this 1 nightmare inning, and then the other innings he seems to be cy young zito again.
If IF IF IF IF Zito could just find a way to not have that one bad inning EVERY SINGLE game, if he could just find a way to pitch every inning like he did last night 2-6 and vs the angels last week
then barry zito could once again be a very good fantasy starting pitcher
the problem is i have been saying this for over a year now.
the talent is there, the stuff is there, he has a new catcher better then last year, he simply needs to get his head straight and get it together. but he may not ever be able to do that.
All that being said I still think Barry Zito finishes the season