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Anonymous wrote:When you finally realize Kerry Wood is the real deal and won't have a "dead arm" because of pitch counts, you can suck on it. Why does the pitch count matter so much now-a-days. No one paid attention to pitch counts in the 50s & 60s. Teams only had 4 starters..
CorySnyder wrote:Just wanted to revise this subject where everyone thought I was a moron -as was Dusty. Well I hate to say it, but I TOLD YOU SO. Now they just need to finish the deal and get to the Series this year WAR PRIOR WOOD CLEMENT ZAMBRANO AND DUSTY
ohhh and COME HOME Maddux!!!
jwhands wrote:Why do I have to constantly listen to morons in here????? You retards are telling everyone that Wood and Prior are going to be fine, and it's the middles of May!!!!! Anyone who knows anything about baseball would realize that this kind of overwork doesn't affect the pitcher until the latter part of the season. You ever hear of a thing called dead arm???? In SF, the only pitcher Dusty would constantly give a pitch count in the 120s-130s was Livan Hernandez. He constantly had trouble getting his velocity back up to where it once was. Thanks, Dusty.
From the same article you morons base your argument on:
If Wood throws 141 pitches in a complete game, that's one thing. Over seven innings is another. Same with Mark Prior. He was pulled Monday after throwing 124 pitches over six innings.
Pitch count might not mean that much........if it's spread out through the game. Kerry Wood in his 141 pitch game:
1st-12 pitches, 2nd-16, 3rd-29. 4th-23, 5th-18, 6th-14, 7th-29.
Prior's 124 pitch game:
1st-16, 2nd-20, 3rd-28, 4th-22, 5th-21, 6th-17
You want pitchers to be in the 10-15 pitch per inning range when they're in a groove. 15-20 pitches in an inning if they get hit a little. In 3 of the 7 innings Wood pitches in, he's at 20+. 2 of the inning are just under 30 pitches!!! With this kind of constant workload, he will fade in the fall. Prior threw 20+ pitches in 4 of his 6 innings. Not good.
Being a Cubs fan, I'm hoping that Dusty doesn't kill these arms too soon. They look like they have a chance at the postseason this year, and I hope they don't ruin their chances at a World Series trip because Dusty feels the need to overwork his studs in less meaningful games in early May.
CorySnyder wrote:Just admit you were wrong about Woods arm falling off last year. Most people were calling Dusty out about his mistreatment of Wood and Prior at the beginning of the year. I merely stated that Prior would definetly be Ok due to his mechanics and delivery and Wood would hold up too.. WELL, each had MONSTER seasons and almost took the Cubbies to the Series with stellar pitching in the playoffs (which by the way, if pitching counts were a great barometer to evaluate ALL pitchers, they both would have worn down in October) Instead, both pitched their best when it counted and remained healthy as I predicted and everyone kept calling out "pitch counts" That is a blanket statement that I hate hearing b/c it doesnt apply to ALL pitchers - so you shouldnt throw ALL pitchers into that bowl.
And yes, his HS coach was crazy but all that matters is the W lol Seriously though, you told me to keep Wood in another post, so how can you bash him?
CorySnyder wrote: Hootie - this is what I was refering to, as well as all the other post on this subject. I was theonly one to back dusty and have faith in prior and wood. I may have looked like a moron in may (to you guys at least) but I looked like a genius in Sept and Oct when I won my league and cheered the Cubbies in the playoffs. I was just trying to show that I won the argument when evryone was calling me an idiot at the beginning of the year Thats all
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