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kcs261 wrote:Shoot, I don't like Hampton, either. But here's the difference:
Dontrelle Willis is 23 and had a sophmore slump after a great rookie campaign.
On the other hand, Mike Hampton is almost a decade older, at 32, and has been pretty mediocre even the last two seasons in Atlanta. In particular, the K/BB ratio stinks and so do his WHIP ratios have been sub-par in Atlanta.
Put another way, a pitcher doesn't usually peak in his 30s, while a pitcher does usuall peak somewhere in his 20s.
So I don't understant the Hampton and Willis comparison. These are two guys in totally different places in their careers.
Willis certainly has room for improvement.
agchris02 wrote:To fill everyone in on the details:
During the draft, he was taken by a 2nd yr owner in the 5th round, I mocked him repeatedly. He said "You wait, two weeks in Willis will be the leader in Complete Game Shutouts"
I again mocked him for being a moron.
Evidently he had some divine powers though and was correct. I still think Willis is too early in the 5th round, and yes, I know he wont keep this up all year. However, I have revised my opinion of his mediocrity. He is now creeping up to a solid mid-level starter.
kcs261 wrote:It kills me how people love a young pitcher, Bonderman, with a 4.9 ERA last year. But people hate Willis with an ERA of 4.02.
Willis must have secretly nailed everybody's girlfriend or something. I don't get it. Either that, or maybe just all the media hype on 2003 turned everybody off.
slomo007 wrote:LBJ is a very controversial poster around here, he posts his thoughts and isn't afraid of it. I respect that he has strong opinions, it just so happens that I usually think they're dead wrong. Sorry LBJ, Dontrelle's a very solid pitcher. Not ace material at this point in his career, but an ERA around or a little below 4.0 and quite a few Ks is nothing to turn a cheek at.
LBJackal wrote:slomo007 wrote:LBJ is a very controversial poster around here, he posts his thoughts and isn't afraid of it. I respect that he has strong opinions, it just so happens that I usually think they're dead wrong. Sorry LBJ, Dontrelle's a very solid pitcher. Not ace material at this point in his career, but an ERA around or a little below 4.0 and quite a few Ks is nothing to turn a cheek at.
I'm not turning my cheek at it. That's what he can do, and that's good enough to be drafted and help a team. I just don't think he's superstar material. There's a difference between being a solid 3.9 ERA 1.4 WHIP pitcher with considerably less than a K per inning (which is what I see him as), and being a low-mid 3's ERA pitcher which is what some poeple are saying he is, or will be. And apparently people think he WON'T hurt you in WHIP and K's, which is not the case. He's not a K pitcher, and his WHIP will be bad, even if he manages to keep his ERA low.
You've thought I was dead wrong on Buehrle and Hampton, and we'll see how that turns out at the end of the year. I seem to remember you disagreeing about Horacio Ramirez being a horrible pitcher. It will be fun at the end of the year to go over all those things... I know I'll be wrong on some, but right on a lot more than you think I will.
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