slomo007 wrote: donny23 wrote: slomo007 wrote: donny23 wrote: slomo007 wrote: stoner420 wrote: donny23 wrote:
stoner420 wrote:Hey guys... i think we all need to stop complaining about this guy... i love him. and by that i mean, i love having him drafted by some idiot in rd 6. No cafe member should have drafted him this year. Shame on you. I love having a guy like zito in the league... everyone overrates him, and im very satisfied not having him(especially in pts leagues where k's are heavy).
basically zito is not god. zito is basically a spot starter at best. if u have him on your team, im sorry. trade him after his first good start if u can/he has one. ill take john thomson rd 21 over zito rd 6 thank you very much.
I agree with most of this. Zito is clearly overrated. I'd clearly take Thomson in Round 21 over Zito even much later than round 6. I am not in a points league and actually a 4X4 so I'm not worried about K's. I'd prefer not to have him on my team also actually but I extended him two years after his great 2003. That being said, I don't mind him being my end of staff starter. I'll admit I'm worried about him but I'd be just as worried having some young completely unproven pitcher.
yeah let me readdress this. I still would keep him on my team if u have him. hes not really worth dropping necessarily. the only reason that none of u should have him on your teams is that more than likely he will be picked waaaay too high in your league. if he falls past rd 18, or shows up on your waiver wire, fine. take him. but like i said, hes only a spot starter. hed be a fine #5 sp, and a great #6 sp who u could throw in every time he faces kc or something. but hes a guy that i wouldnt start 75% of the time...whereas im sure theres a dumb*ss in all of your leagues who has a huge boner for the guy... so let him have him.
A spot starter who allowed 8 runs to Tampa Bay? Who exactly can you start him against and not be worried?
Sure, and let's not start Snoltz vs. Florida while we are at it.
I can see this is getting nowhere...it all comes down to your faith in Zito and my non-faith in him. Comparing Zito to Smoltz is like comparing Jennifer Aniston to Rosie O'Donnell.
I wasn't doing it to make a comparison and have at no point said I have faith in Zito. My point was you can't judge a season based on a game. He had a dud vs Tampa but I'd still start him next time vs them. So let me ask you, if you could start Bedard vs Boston or Zito vs Tampa, you'd start Bedard?
That's not a fair comparison....Bedard vs. TB or Zito vs. TB and I would definitely without a doubt with 100% certainty start Bedard. Quite simply, I trust Bedard more...and that's truly remarkable considering he has almost no experience. Zito is capable (and probably will) get lit up by any team in the Majors....Bedard we don't know about yet.
My point is that if he is on your bench, you might be willing to start him over Bedard given matchups. I think that's what the other guy was trying to say. You might argue back that you'd start most pitchers vs Tampa vs Bedard againts Boston. It all depends who is on your wire. I'd take Zito over all pitchers on my wire personally, and it's not because I'm high on him at all.
You've made it clear how low you are on Zito. I think you are right not to be high on him, but I think you're a little lower than most. We'll see how he bounces back after his horrid start and agree to disagree on just how bad Zito is