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Short update on Vazquez

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:37 pm
by quietstorm
From the "Quick Cuts" section of Will Carroll's latest column:

A Cubs player told me "Javier Vazquez didn’t just have no curve, he might as well have put what was coming on the Jumbotron." That’s actually good news since it’s correctable

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:39 pm
by Dawgpound 1613
Would match with Rotoworld saying he thought he was tipping his pitches. I'm not a Vazquez owner, but for their sake, I hope this is the case.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:20 pm
by agchris02
Im curious as what cubs player said "Vazquez didnt just have no curve"

Thats about as good as English as I expect from an illeterate, redneck, two year old

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:26 pm
by Dawgpound 1613
Most baseball players don't go to school past high school, and for foreign players who knows. Not to mention the majority of players in all professional sports seem to have trouble being grammatically correct.

And, BTW, it is "illiterate".

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:29 pm
by nola
Actually that is fine gramatically. It looks strange in print, but when said aloud, there would likely be an emphasis on "just" and/or "no."

"He didn't JUST have NO curve,"

Don't be so tough on people.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:35 pm
by BigMusky
yee haw!!!!!!!!!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:38 pm
by KolbSaves
nola wrote:Actually that is fine gramatically. It looks strange in print, but when said aloud, there would likely be an emphasis on "just" and/or "no."

"He didn't JUST have NO curve,"

Don't be so tough on people.

Actually, no.

It should be "He just didn't have any curve"

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:38 pm
by Dawgpound 1613
Actually, it is a double negative, which means that the "didn't" and the "no" negate and he was effectively saying Vazquez had his curve - which was not what I believe he was trying to say. So, in effect, he said one thing that meant another. I'd say that was grammatically incorrect.

He should have just said "Vazquez didn't have his curve."

Again, I'm not picking on the guy as I hold athletes to lower standards in general. And I agree it wasn't the worst thing as, when spoken, it probably sounded better than in print. But it is tough to argue that "he just didn't have no curve" is grammatically correct written or spoken.

And the point is, it appears he was tipping his pitches. Maybe he can fix it.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:41 pm
by Dans
I agree with nola (as stupid as this is). The question was "so he had no curve?"

The answer was "He didn't JUST have no curve" as in, in addition to having no curve, he was also tipping his pitches.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:44 pm
by yellowdog
Actually, I think he meant to say, "he didn't JUST have 'no curve'", implying there was more to the problem than just a lack of a curve ball, thus making it almost acceptable English. :-?